I like playing my music on random seeing as I am slowly building my music
library.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew C
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Creating and Managing Playlist in Winamp
using Jaws

Hello there. Here are 2 tips to also help with that ind depth and helpful
tutorial. To clear out a playlist even faster just be on the playlist editor
and hit control n for new. It will remove all tracks. Secondly you can move
files around with the combination of alt and either up or down arrow. Also
never, unless you really want a random selection hit control shift r. it is
a randomizer and can easily be hit by accident when using the control shift
t for time remaining. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:34 PM
To: blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Creating and Managing Playlist in Winamp using
Jaws

I wrote this tutorial up some time ago for someone else, and, given the
currently circulating thread of Winamp playlists, I thought I would post it.

Basically, it deals with creating and managing playlists using Winamp and
Jaws.

I'm sure there are no end of ways to create and manage playlists, so, keep
in mind that the below instructions are of my own method, and I've been
using the below method for quite some time.

Hope people get a use out of it.

***Begin Tutorial***

Believe it or not, it's easier to create a playlist with Winamp, than it
sounds.

First, go to your desktop, or where ever you keep the Winamp shortcut, and
enter on it.

Once the Winamp window opens, control+tab twice to get to the playlist
editor.

If you find that you've used the control+tab keystroke twice, and Jaws
didn't say playlist editor, then that means you have the playlist editor
closed.

You can open it in one of two ways.

You can press the keystroke of alt+E, or you can press alt+F, then arrow
down to playlist editor and enter on it.

I think you'll find the alt+E keystroke is easier.  Smile.

In any case, once Jaws reports that the playlist editor is opened,
control+tab up to the playlist editor.

Now, this is going to sound weird, but go with me on this.

Once you land in the playlist editor, press control+A to highlight
everything, then press delete.

Don't worry if Jaws doesn't say anything, what you've essentially done is
delete any tracks that were in there from the last time you used Winamp to
listen to something.

Unfortunately, Winamp likes to leave residual ghost images of files it's
played in the last instance, and so, in order to create a clean playlist,
you have to delete what was previously there.

So, now that you've done that, press the letter L for lists, and this will
open up an open dialog box.

Those of you familiar with downloading from send space, or saving as and the
like, will be familiar with this dialog box.

When this dialog box opens, you'll land on the filename edit box.  Do a
shift+tab to go to the file list window just above the filename edit box.

Now, depending on where you last took Winamp, you won't know where you'll be
in the file list, so a good rule of thumb is to press the backspace key
seven or eight times until Jaws stops talking.

When he does, do a say line command with insert+up arrow, and Jaws should
read out, "Not Selected My Documents".

This means you're on your desktop, and you can now go to the folder where
the files are that you want to play.

So, if the files are in a folder three levels deep into your my documents
folder, let's call it Thea's audio files, you would press the spacebar to
select My Documents, press the enter key to go into that folder, then arrow
or find the folder titled Thea's Personal Files, highlight it, then press
enter.

Once in that folder, find the next folder, called Thea in Hawaii, enter on
it, and finally go to Thea's audio files, and press enter.

Be careful here, you don't want to make a common mistake that everyone
makes, even me before I realized it, smile, do not touch any of the arrow
keys, or the spacebar key, or anything on your keyboard until you've done a
select all with control+A, and I'll explain later.

Once you've done the control+A, tab to the open button in the dialog box,
and press the spacebar to allow Winamp to place all the files you just
selected into the playlist.

There is an even easier way to create a playlist, if you aren't selective
about what it is you're wanting to play, in other words, if you're not
actually trying to create a playlist for a party, or just want some music
playing in the background while you're cleaning house, or a book playing
while you're knitting or something like that, you can just go to your
desktop, without opening Winamp, navigate to the folder where the music
files are that you wish to play, now, this could be a music album, or an
audio book of some kind, and highlight it without going into the folder.

Once you do this, press your applications key, which is generally the first
key to the left of the right control key (*keep in mind your keyboard
configuration my be different from other configurations*), and arrow down to
"Play in Winamp", or press the letter P for playlist, and Winamp will open
up and start playing the tracks in the folder from the beginning, and in
alphabetic order.  If you wish to add more folders to the playlist, simply
pause the playback of the playlist you just  started playing, alt+tab back
to the window where your files were located, and navigate to the folder
where the other files are located that you wish to add to the playlist.  One
might do this if they wish to listen to an entire catalogue of an artist
like Led Zepplin or Eric Clapton, or an entire series of books, like the
Harry Potter series by J. K. Rowling, arrow down to the folder containing
the files you wish to add, and, again, don't go into the folder, simply
press your applications key, and arrow down to the option to "Enqueue in
Winamp", or press the letter E for End, and the files in that folder will be
added to the current playlist at the end of the current playlist.  Now, you
wouldn't have to do this one folder at a time, as you can, instead of
highlighting one folder, highlight several folders at the same time, then
press the letter P for Play in Winamp, and the playlist will be created
automatically.  I won't bother going into selecting and highlighting
contiguous and non-continuous files and folders using Jaws.

Now, the reason I said not to touch anything once you land in the folder is
because Winamp, and, indeed, Windows, in it's infinite wisdom, has a little
bug.

In most cases, when you're selecting a bunch of files to transfer over to
another drive or whatever, say you want all the files except for the first
one, a person using common sense would arrow down to the second file, then
press control+shift+end to highlight all the files from that point downward.
Once they're selected, the person would copy or cut the files, go to the
destination where they want the file placed, then paste them in there.

Only one problem, you suddenly notice that the last file that was at the
bottom of the list, is now at the beginning of the file list.

In fact, it doesn't correct itself until you refresh the screen with F5, or
until you back out of the folder and come back in.

This is a common problem with Windows, Winamp, and some MP3 players, like
RCA's line of MP3 players, especially the really cheap earlier versions.
One would highlight an entire list of files in a folder, paste it onto the
MP3 player, and the last file would invariably play first, then loop back to
the beginning of the book.

In essence, the person would have to place the files on the MP3 player, one
at a time.  Frustrating, to say the least, and I should know, I used to own
one.  Smile.

Well, this is what Winamp does, so arrow through the files using your up and
down arrows to see if the files in are their correct order.

If you find that the last file has been placed as the number one file,
simply delete it with the delete key, press the letter L for list again, and
when the dialog box pops up, shift+tab to the file list window, and arrow
down to the file you wish to add.  Once highlighted, press the enter key,
and the file will magically appear at the bottom of the list.

If you don't really care what file is played first, go ahead and leave it
the way it is.  This may sometimes be the case with music files, or movies
that don't join into each other, like sequels and stuff.

Which ever the case, this is how you add files to the playlist.

Once the files have been added, some of Winamp's earlier versions used to
place the person back in the Winamp main window, and if that's the case,
control+tab back up to the playlist editor, and if you've been taken back to
the playlist editor after adding the files, congratulations, and just skip
to the next paragraph.

So now that the files are added, you want to save the playlist so you can go
back to it when you need or want to listen to it.  To do this, press the
control+S keystroke, like in most applications, and you'll get the save as
dialog box again, but this time, it'll be to save the file, as opposed to
opening it up, like the last dialog box.

First do a shift+tab to go to the file list, and again, backspace seven or
eight times to get to your desktop.

Once in the desktop, navigate to the folder where you wish to place the
playlist file.

If you want to keep the file on your desktop for easier access, then do
nothing and tab to the file name edit box.  Those of you who are going to
place this file into a folder other then the desktop, navigate to the folder
you want to place the playlist file in, similar to the way you looked for
the files to add to the playlist, and, once in the folder, tab to the
filename edit box.

Now that both of you are on the same page, enter the name of the filename
you want to give the playlist.  Do not add an extension, Winamp will
automatically do this for you.  So, let's, for the sake of argument, name
the file, "Thea's Carnal Cravings", evil grin, type that in, and if you want
Winamp to use the default file extension of M3U, you need do nothing else
except to press the enter key and you're done, the playlist is set up and
saved on your hard drive, and you can listen to the files you've placed in
the playlist when ever you want.  At this point, you can now just arrow down
to the bottom of this message for the notes on playlists that I've included
at the bottom of this message.

If you don't want to save it using the default extension, you have to tab
once to the file types combo box, and select the type of extension you wish
to give the file name.

There are several playlist extensions to choose from, and usually Winamp
will handle all of them, unless you've got another program set to handle
playlist files.  In any case, arrow up or down to the file extension you
want Winamp to place on the end of Thea's Carnal Cravings, then tab to the
save button, and you're done.

the file is now saved in the folder you wanted it to be saved in.

If you want the file extension to remain M3U, then by all means, do like the
other person did, and press the enter key once you're done entering the file
name in the edit box.

Now, some notes on playlists, what they are, what they do, and some tips or
tricks that may or may not help you in listening to them.

First, a bit about what playlists are.

Playlists are exactly as the name denotes, a list of files that Winamp
should play in the sequence you specified.  You told Winamp what files you
wanted to add to the list of files to play, told Winamp where to find those
files, and which order to play them in.  This is the purpose of a playlist
file, so you don't have to keep coming back to Winamp when you've finished
the last file, and having to open or enter on the next file to open.

The playlist file actually is only a shopping list of sorts, or, for the
technically inclined among you, they are essentially databases you've just
created using Winamp with the following information:

Name of file to play;
Location  of file to play;
order in which to play the file;

It probably has a whole bunch of other information in it that I haven't
specified here, but there's a fine line between a tutorial file, and chicken
scratch you don't understand.  Besides, I probably wouldn't understand it
enough to explain it myself.  Smile.

So, basically, that's all a playlist file is.

You cannot expect to save a playlist file on your computer, then cart it
away on a USB stick, or e-mail it to a friend, and expect them to play the
file on their computer, or you plug in your USB stick and expect it to play
on the other computer.

No folks, you must include the files, right along with the playlist file if
you have any hopes of the playlist actually working on someone else's
computer.

In terms of handling playlist files, I guess it depends on how many files
you've actually got in the playlist.

for example, if you've got a hundred files in the playlist, as I sometimes
do when I place entire television series in the playlist and listen to them
as I go along, I will often delete the file I've just listened to, to make
it easier for me to find my spot, which I'll explain later in a few seconds.

To do this, once you've gone to the next file after the one you want to
delete, go to the playlist editor, arrow up to the file you've just listened
to, and simply press the delete key to remove it.

Once the track is removed from the list, control+S to save the playlist
again, where it will ask you if you want to save over it, and you say yes to
that question.

This will ensure that your changes take affect for next time you open up the
playlist.

Now, about what I said earlier about making it easier to find your place.

As you may or may not know, pressing the letter M in Winamp, while a file is
open, will insert a place marker, or bookmark in the track, so you can come
back and listen to the track from that point forward.

To do this, press the letter M, and a dialog box will open up, asking you to
name the place marker.  Go ahead and type the name of the place marker, then
press enter to add the place marker to the track.

To recall or return to the place marker later on in the day or when ever,
press alt+shift+M, and a dialog box will open up with the list of place
markers for the current track.  Select the one you wish to go to, and press
enter on it.

Now, the reason I said that I would talk about it later on, is this.

On some occasions, you'll find that you've entered on the playlist file,
press alt+shift+M to bring up the list of place markers, and Jaws said
something funny like, "There are no place markers for the current track".

you ask yourself, hey, what gives, I just put a place marker on this file
three minutes ago.

I just went off to tell my aunt Lucille that I had a nasty rash and needed
her to bring me some Salve when she came over later for her visit, and now
this darn thing is telling me that I didn't do what I remember doing so
clearly?

Well folks, remember what I said about what playlists are...

In simple terms, they are just a laundry list of files to play in the order
you specify.  The key word being files, with an S on the end.

You see, playlist files play the tracks back to back, with no break between
tracks, so you may not have known it, but you've gone three or four files
into that book, and didn't realize it.

Heck, I'd imagine that Thea's Carnal Cravings must be an intoxicating book.
Smiles.

Suffice it to say, what you've essentially done was put a place marker in
the fourth file, and now trying to recall the place marker in the first
file, where you did not place the place marker?

Make sense?

Lord I hope so...Grins.

What you have to do is advance to the fourth file, where you did put the
place marker, then recall the place marker when the fourth file starts
playing, or what ever.

I should let you know that the keystrokes for advancing and regressing back
in a playlist are the letters B and Z, respectively.

Press the letter B to skip to the next track, and the letter Z to skip back
to the last track you just listened to.

In any case, this can be rather frustrating if you have to go through 88
files to get to the 89th file where you placed the place marker, so, as I
said, I like to delete files as I go along listening to them, to make it
easier down the road.

Keep in mind, if you find you've deleted a file accidentally, you can always
re-add the file back onto the playlist, so it isn't a total loss.

Now I will first tell you that you must be in the Winamp playlist editor
before these keystrokes will work.

Alt + down arrow, moves track down in the playlist
Alt + up arrow, moves track up in the playlist
Alt + Control + down arrow, move the selection to the current track

Now to move the track up or down, I think it must be first selected, but not
certain of this.  This is where the Alt + control + down arrow keystroke
comes in.
Since I have never really used these keystrokes before until now, I am not
sure how it is all suppose to work.
Another keystroke I noticed was available was control + I, this will invert
your playlist.
Once you make any changes to your playlist, in order for it to be there next
time, lets not forget to save it.

The following information will create an html text file outlining how many
tracks are in the playlist, the average time of each track, and the total
play time of the playlist, along with a track listing of the tracks in the
playlist.

While in the playlist window, press the keystroke of control+alt+G to create

an HTML file of your playlist, which you can then convert to a text file, or

highlight and select the tracks you want to copy and paste to another 
program.

Make sure, you're in the playlist window by pressing control+tab to cycle 
through the open windows.

One can also do this to obtain the track listing on a commercial CD.

When you place the commercial CD into your drive, open the My Computer Icon
on your desktop, and press the applications key, which is the first key to
the left of the right control key, on most modern keyboards, or right click
on the CD/DVD drive you placed the commercial CD into, and arrow to the
option to play in Winamp.

At this point, the CD should start playing.  Pause the playback with the C
key or the spacebar, and follow the steps above to obtain the track listing.

Please note that some commercial CD's may not produce a track listing if it
is not listed in the Winamp source site's archive, if the CD is so brand new
as to not have been introduced into the site's database, and/or if you have
set Winamp's preferences incorrectly.

***End of Tutorial***

Scorpio
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