Hi Damien, All excellent points. I suppose I've got to stop thinking of xp as a backup system; just because the machinery still works beautifully doesn't mean its a viable option.
Best, John From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:10 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike Hi, BGT has had to be recompiled to support Elias. It is both the Elias engine itself and that version of BGT that won’t work on XP. Manamon doesn’t use Elias, and yet that still requires Windows 7 or later. More and more things are ending XP support, NVDA for one. Microsoft itself ended support for XP in 2009, so my opinion is the fact that software still works on XP now is merely coincidence than an outright attempt to support or not support it. Cheers. Damien. From: john Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike Hi Damien, Hmmm, my version of BGT, which is the latest as far as I know, still compiles and runs on xp just fine. That's an interesting point about online manuals which I hadn't considered. I wonder if there's not a happy compromise somewhere? I thought VB6 was for the xp era, if it was for 98 it really is amazing that its lasted as long as it has. Best, John From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike Hi, That’s not a bug now, so much as a BGT compatibility issue. The fact is, all VG’s titles are made with BGT, and BGT did used to run on XP. It’s an easy mistake to make. I think it was after a Visual Studio update that it just stopped working on XP, and since neither I nor Aaron nor Philip have used XP for a while now it’s not something that actively came to note until it was released to the public. To be honest, I don’t know many people who would rebuild and reupload a game simply for a small update to a manual. I know I’d want to do something with the actual game before I reuploaded a patch. I’m guessing that’s why a lot of devs have started hosting their manuals online and linking to them via the game or a shortcut now. It does make them easier to edit, albeit harder to access should the internet go down... You will note though that the problem has indeed been acknowledged by way of the Manamon manual, which specifically says you need Windows 7 or later, suggesting that the games can’t be fixed for XP compatibility which, to be honest, I can’t say I’m too surprised. I’m actually surprised the VB6 games have lasted as long as they have, seeing as Windows Vista onwards couldn’t even install Visual Studio 6. Yet even Windows 10 can run VB6 apps which in theory were designed for Windows 98...Very bizarre. Cheers. Damien. From: john Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike There was that xp issue that's plagued all of VG's games. They did promise to fix it with Psycho Strike, but its continued into their other titles, and, as far as I know, they've been saying their games run on xp the whole time (which means something's weird if they won't even update the manual). From: Damien Sykes-Lindley Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:21 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike Hi, Just because a game isn’t updated doesn’t mean it’s been discontinued. As for Psycho Strike, you can still purchase it, it’s still playable, thus to my mind it’s not discontinued. Personally, I don’t see what needs updating. The game is stable enough. I haven’t seen any bugs in the 30 months it’s been on the market. Cheers. Damien. From: mattias Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [blind-gamers] psycho strike Are it discontinued? No updates at least 2 years Skickades från E-post för Windows 10
