I think xp is supported more as an if it ain't broke, don't fix it approach. But every developer by now knows that when support for xp in their program naturally falls by the wayside, they won't have to go the extra mile to fix it. Although, Elias is aware of the xp problem and for all we know it could've been fixed in version 3 of the engine, after all, maybe fixing xp support may fix those issues with wine. But for now, it's perfectly fine to run on windows 7 and above. keep in mind that even the audiogames forum doesn't work on xp anymore because of clowdflare's security updates.
On 10/25/17, john <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Damien, > All excellent points. I suppose I've got to stop thinking of xp as a backup > system; just because the machinery still works beautifully doesn't mean its > a viable option. > > Best, > John > > > From: Damien Sykes-Lindley > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:10 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > > Hi, > BGT has had to be recompiled to support Elias. It is both the Elias engine > itself and that version of BGT that won’t work on XP. > Manamon doesn’t use Elias, and yet that still requires Windows 7 or later. > More and more things are ending XP support, NVDA for one. > Microsoft itself ended support for XP in 2009, so my opinion is the fact > that software still works on XP now is merely coincidence than an outright > attempt to support or not support it. > Cheers. > Damien. > > > From: john > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > Hi Damien, > Hmmm, my version of BGT, which is the latest as far as I know, still > compiles and runs on xp just fine. > That's an interesting point about online manuals which I hadn't considered. > I wonder if there's not a happy compromise somewhere? > I thought VB6 was for the xp era, if it was for 98 it really is amazing that > its lasted as long as it has. > Best, > John > > > From: Damien Sykes-Lindley > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 8:28 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > Hi, > That’s not a bug now, so much as a BGT compatibility issue. > The fact is, all VG’s titles are made with BGT, and BGT did used to run on > XP. It’s an easy mistake to make. I think it was after a Visual Studio > update that it just stopped working on XP, and since neither I nor Aaron nor > Philip have used XP for a while now it’s not something that actively came to > note until it was released to the public. > To be honest, I don’t know many people who would rebuild and reupload a game > simply for a small update to a manual. I know I’d want to do something with > the actual game before I reuploaded a patch. I’m guessing that’s why a lot > of devs have started hosting their manuals online and linking to them via > the game or a shortcut now. It does make them easier to edit, albeit harder > to access should the internet go down... > You will note though that the problem has indeed been acknowledged by way of > the Manamon manual, which specifically says you need Windows 7 or later, > suggesting that the games can’t be fixed for XP compatibility which, to be > honest, I can’t say I’m too surprised. > I’m actually surprised the VB6 games have lasted as long as they have, > seeing as Windows Vista onwards couldn’t even install Visual Studio 6. Yet > even Windows 10 can run VB6 apps which in theory were designed for Windows > 98...Very bizarre. > Cheers. > Damien. > > > From: john > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > There was that xp issue that's plagued all of VG's games. They did promise > to fix it with Psycho Strike, but its continued into their other titles, > and, as far as I know, they've been saying their games run on xp the whole > time (which means something's weird if they won't even update the manual). > > > From: Damien Sykes-Lindley > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 3:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > Hi, > Just because a game isn’t updated doesn’t mean it’s been discontinued. As > for Psycho Strike, you can still purchase it, it’s still playable, thus to > my mind it’s not discontinued. > Personally, I don’t see what needs updating. The game is stable enough. I > haven’t seen any bugs in the 30 months it’s been on the market. > Cheers. > Damien. > > > From: mattias > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 4:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [blind-gamers] psycho strike > > Are it discontinued? > > No updates at least 2 years > > > > Skickades från E-post för Windows 10 > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#117861): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/117861 View All Messages In Topic (21): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/topic/6227670 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/6227670/21656 New Topic: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/post Change Your Subscription: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/editsub/21656 Group Home: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers Contact Group Owner: [email protected] Terms of Service: https://groups.io/static/tos Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
