Hi,

Since we're on the topic.


Can someone who knows about Microsoft flight simulator please, please, please help me out here.


I have FSX but have absolutely 0 idea how to even start using it.


On 05-Jun-2018 8:42 AM, Ron Kolesar wrote:
For your information Jordan!!
I do try a thorough test on everything I think that will make flying as close to the real world and still be blind friendly!! Don't yell at a person who might need a little help learning the new programs.
I have PF3 and I also have the weather program.
But how is FSX and the new FSX Pilot BVI Pilot Friendly?
Also, how is MCE BVI Pilot friendly as well?
So you are wrong on two points.
1. you misspelled my last name, which is Kolesar
2. I do try my best to learn every program that sounds interesting to add my two cents to the thread and to stress test it out for myself.
So, back up what you say next time.
Ron who can earn a license to use a radio but can't earn a license to drive a car.

-----Original Message----- From: Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 01:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] Should video games have accessibility features?

That is where you are wrong and completely wrong.  There needs to be a law requiring all things be accessible for one.  Two, Microsoft Flight Simulaotr is perfectly accessible.  Ron Koliser apparently does not think so but he has never bothered to learn how to use the programs that make it accessible. So, what I am trying to get at is companies should be required to make accessibility built right in, which would be preferred, or they should come up with add-on software that would make it accessible.  Train simulators are a great example here.  The AI can already tell what is going on and usually can tell what to do and do it correctly.  Why not expand on that and add accessibility in where you would e told when a speed post comes up or there is a signal coming up or a whistle post.  Tube Sim clearly shows that this can be done.  Now if Open Rails would listen and figure this out, that would be a good thing.  They already have a pretty good auto pilot mode which works well with some big limitations like forget trying to do any switching with the autopilot mode and sometimes it will not start the train at a station after stopping.  Even more here is if accessibility were built into simulators like this, the realism actually goes up if it is done correctly. Anyway, back to working on plans for a program I probably will be taking over, and no I am not releasing any details until I am sure I am taking it over.
Jordan
On Jun 5, 2018, at 12:22 AM, Shaun Everiss <[email protected]> wrote:

And to be honest the only way to make a sim accessible is if say you do it like eurofly.

Thats a good sim, its accessible, weather its a real game is a different matter.

Ofcause the accessibility companies could get involved.

Can you imagine thoughh, get a message.

"this game requires a licence for jaws, and leasy and a licence for scripts which will cost 2000000 dollars to buy, please buy the games scripts from x website to play the game which will have half its puzzles removed so it can comply with the law."

No one will play it.

No one will buy jaws just for a game, and no one will make games accessible and they can argue it costs to much to bother.

Suddenly there are a lot of suits and the law will get removed to stop gaming companies going out of business.

A law is nice but it doesn't always work for you.

The big companies may or may not be able to handle it or sue for exemptions the small guys though.

If the law is to make games accessible, then it probably works both ways, the sighted will need to play our games etc.




On 6/5/2018 3:59 PM, QuentinC wrote:
Hello,

In tehory, of course they should.

In practice, they usually don't, whether by ignorance, or because they estimate that the cost to add such features don't  cover the benefits that they could get in blind people buying the game. Go explain them how many we are in the world...

However, I seriously doubt that some types of games are really accessibilisable. It depends on the core game mechanic, and, ammong others, the need for a permanent global view at opposed to local/1st person  view.


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