Yes, you can, but that still doesn't solve the problem of the screen reader
not tracking your position on the map correctly. As it happens, NetHack
defaults to putting your PC cursor on the symbol that represents your
character, which is the @ but may also be something else if you end up, say,
transformed into a dragon or whatever.
The need to keep track of the column you are reviewing to get a sense of the
map layout makes these games far easier to play on Linux with Speakup, for
what that's worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jude
DaShiell
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 5:41 PM
To: [email protected]; 'Travis Siegel' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] nethack (was Am I missing something, guys?)

Can you route the cursor to the @ character the first time it appears in the
game?  So far as I know, no cursor exists in nethack.  The first  @ sign
that appears is the player themselves.  After that, werejackals and
werewolves also get the @ character as do other humans in the game like
shopkeepers.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Zachary Kline wrote:

> The biggest problem with NetHack, on Windows at least, is that most
Windows screen readers no longer keep track of the cursor position in a way
which makes it easy to review the map. It's maddening but I don't really
have a solution.
>
> For instance, if you had something like this:
>
> ----
> |$.|
> |.>|
> ----
> If your cursor was on the >, and you moved up one row, Windows screen
readers will bring you all the way back to the vertical bar on the left
side.
>
> Jaws has some support for tracking the cursor properly in the old Windows
command prompt, but not the newer Windows terminal, which is frustrating.
NVDA doesn't anywhere, as far as I know.
>
> Sorry to go on a bit of a rant, this is one of the things which drives me
nuts.
> Best,
> Zack.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 3:28 PM
> To: [email protected]; Travis Siegel <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] nethack (was Am I missing something, 
> guys?)
>
> I wonder, two things might work together.
> First, make sure graphics is disabled so the whole game plays in ascii.
> Second, run nethack from the dos command in windows.
>
>
>
> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Heather Seaman wrote:
>
> > Could an emulator like DosBox work? You'd have to check whether the
emulator is accessible, but if so maybe you could play that blast from the
past. On Jan 10, 2023 5:45 PM, Travis Siegel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I never solved it, but I too spent entirely too much time playing 
> > > that one.  Haven't managed to get it working sufficiently under 
> > > windows, in dos it worked just fine though.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/10/2023 5:03 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > Have you ever played nethack?  I've never won that game myself.
> > > > Many years spent playing it though.
> > > >
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