Mich,

Just my opinion, but if PS-5 is what you’re after, you really don’t need the 
built-in drive unless you either have older PS games that you’d like to import 
or if you want to play movies like you mentioned.

I’ll revisit the Blu-ray player to see if everything is accessible on it. I 
tried it when I got the console but at the time I was not completely familiar 
with navigating it with the controller so I will need to look at it again. I 
will let you know what I find.

Regarding X-Box, you can set it up independently from what I remember. If I 
remember correctly, the keystroke to turn on Narrator works right out of the 
box so it’s really no biggie.

>From what I can remember, I actually think I had an easier time setting up the 
>X-Box than I did with the PS-5 but that’s just me. :) Your milage may vary.

Anyway, have a great evening and best of luck with what you decide. Will write 
when I have more info.

Cheers!

Cara





> On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:54 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Cara and all. Yes you bring up a verry good point. Accessibillidey is  a 
> verry Brod term and you almost have to divide the accessibillidey into the 
> different disibillideys for instance madder skills, vi, blind, wheel chair 
> etc. since what might be accessible to some one in a wheel chair might be 
> pointless to play for those of us who have no sight or verry limmided sight. 
> The same go’s for vi people who have some sight verses some one who has no 
> sight things like couler contrast font size and other things don’t mean 
> anything to those of us who have no sight. I have played audio games for 
> years and I used to play my sisters Nintendo first when I had some sight up 
> until I was 6. So I am just trying to play some more console games. Of korce 
> I need to save up for a consul and the differences between x box and ps 5 and 
> the 2 different ps 5’s that are out there is kindof overwhelming. That is why 
> I am asking so many questions and trying to get as much info as I can. I have 
> saved up just a small amount for the ps 5. I like that since I have seen 
> vidiows of games using that that the screen reader starts right away as I 
> have said and there is no need for sighted help when it comes to setting it 
> up. I am sure the same is true of x box but just from looking around on 
> YouTube I can’t find any vidiows that show narader in action on x box except 
> if you count those that show you how to tern it off and on lol. From Mich.
>  
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Cara 
> Quinn
> Sent: August 3, 2023 5:32 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have found 
> better x box? or ps 5?
>  
> Hi Mich,
>  
> I have no idea about the Spiderman games and I’m wondering about them myself.
>  
> I have not heard anything definitive on this which brings up a really 
> important point I think.
>  
> This has come up here before, but the concept of accessibility is kind of a 
> pain the way it is used when people are describing games.
>  
> For example, when I was looking up info on Hogwarts Legacy, it looked, for 
> all intents and purposes that the game could be played without sight but 
> that’s just not the case, unless I’m missing some really basic features 
> somewhere. :)
>  
> I can get through the menus and such but as I mentioned, the most basic 
> features of assisted navigation or having any kind of audio guides etc are 
> just not there. So I can’t find any way at present to really play the game 
> without assistance right from the start.
>  
> So calling this game accessible is a no go in my opinion.
>  
> Anyway, so far, from what I’ve read on the Spiderman games, I can’t find 
> anything that specifically says that it has features that would be necessary 
> or even helpful in actual game-play for someone playing without any sight at 
> all.
>  
> I’ll give the site you mentioned a look and see if I’ve missed anything 
> though. I’m very curious.
>  
> Thanks Mich, if I find out anything more about any of the games in this 
> thread, I’ll be sure to let you know.
>  
> Have a great day!
>  
> Cheers!
>  
> Cara
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:57 PM, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello yes that does help. I have played the Vale on the pc and beet it and 
>> liked the game. I have not played any of the other games you menchend. Is it 
>> true that the spiderman games would be pliable by those of us who are blind? 
>> Since I red that on the websight caniplaythat.com <http://caniplaythat.com/> 
>> from Mich.
>>  
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Cara 
>> Quinn
>> Sent: August 3, 2023 4:32 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have found 
>> better x box? or ps 5?
>>  
>> also, on X-Box, there are The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, A Western Drama, 
>> and Forza Horizon 5.
>>  
>> A Western Drama is fair at best, in my opinion, but is specifically designed 
>> for blind folks.
>>  
>> I have The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, but have not gotten into it yet. I 
>> believe it is also specifically designed to be played without sight, as it 
>> has no graphics to speak of.
>>  
>> Forza Horizon 5 is my favorite game at the minute, (and it has been for some 
>> time now) but I would say, is somewhat accessible. There are a few sticking 
>> points in the game but once you get past them and learn how the game works, 
>> you can certainly enjoy about 75 percent of it accessibly. It’s far from 
>> perfect but It really is very good for a mainstream racing experience.
>>  
>> I’m also looking forward to the release of the next Forza Motorsport.
>>  
>> Regarding PS-5, Really, the only games I’ve found so far to be completely 
>> accessible, are the Last of Us 1 and 2.
>>  
>> I’m also playing Hogwarts Legacy with a friend and while it is sort of 
>> accessible in some ways, it lacks some crucial features for simple in-game 
>> navigation which really make it close to impossible to play without sight.
>>  
>> Hogwarts Legacy is also available on X-Box but right now I’m only playing it 
>> on PS-5. If I try it on X-Box and find that it’s any better, I will 
>> certainly let y'all know.
>>  
>> I’m trying to research other truly blind-accessible games for PS-5 at the 
>> minute as well, so I am also interested in other’s experiences with this.
>>  
>> Hope this helps and have a great day!
>>  
>> Cheers!
>>  
>> Cara
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Lenron <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Diablo iv, forza motorsport will be comes out in a couple months. As
>>> dusk falls. Are a few I can think of off the top of my head.
>>> 
>>> On 8/3/23, goshawk on horseback <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I am still trying to find what accessible games, if there are any, are
>>>> available for xbox, as that is what I have.
>>>> 
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Jen .
>>>>  To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 9:25 AM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have
>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  What genres of games are available for both systems and what version of
>>>> both systems have the accessibility.
>>>>  Would either one of these systems be playable by someone with no vision.
>>>>  Jen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:58 AM, goshawk on horseback
>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>>    I would agree with this, as whilst I have heard about the speech being
>>>> available on the PS5, I have also heard that it isn't up to much, where as 
>>>> I
>>>> can say that the speech on the Xbox is good.
>>>> 
>>>>    Simon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>      From: michael barnes
>>>>      To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>      Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 4:36 AM
>>>>      Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have
>>>> found better x box? or ps 5?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>      I prefer the Xbox. I feel that the Xbox is more accessible than
>>>> PlayStation five. However, it is a persons preference.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        On Aug 2, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Mich Verrier <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>        
>>>>        Hi all I am also wondering witch game consul is better x box? Or ps
>>>> 5? I have red about PS 5 Thor Ragnarock edditions as well and would like to
>>>> know what those are? Also are you able to use the PS 5 To play blue ray
>>>> movies? And if so is the accessibillidey extend to just games? Or if you
>>>> wanted to play a blue ray dvd of a movie could you do it and still have a
>>>> screen reader option reading you the menu? I know that this can be dun on a
>>>> PS 5 playing blue rays I mean  so I thought I would ask if playing blue ray
>>>> movies would also be possible but was not shure about the menu of the ps 5
>>>> if it would read out what you needed toknow or if it was only for gameing? 
>>>> I
>>>> have never dun this before and so that is the reason why I thought I would
>>>> ask. Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from Temiskaming Shores Ontario Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Lenron Brown
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>  
> 
>  
> 



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