Hi, Niko. I think you are missing the point. The point being not having surround sound won't prevent you from playing the games. Especially, games that have other sound cues like a targeting beep, click, etc. What you will miss is a ritcher, purer, experience. The fact of the matter is that turning off 3D surround sound in the game is not possible, and here is why. When a developer decides to write a game he has to make some decisions early on what kind of sound buffer he/she will be using for the game. They start with what is called a SecondaryBuffer, and then several flags are set on that buffer such as: stereo panning, Control3D, Control Frequency, etc. However, pan option and Control3D flag can not be set on the same buffer. It has to either be stereo panning or Control3D. Not both. Finally, after the decision is made to Control3D the developer has to create a special sound buffer called a Buffer3D which contains the associated SecondaryBuffer. Which the Buffer3D buffer is used for working with the effect in a virtual 3D world space. So unless the developer wants to spend allot of unnecessary timecreating two different kinds of sound buffers, and playing effects then the only practical solution is one or the other. Back to your original complaint with 3D though. What will happen on your kind of setup is you will be able to hear effects in your left and right channels, but not in the forward and rear channels. Esentually, no different than if you were using a stereo panning setup in a game using panning.
Niko C wrote: > Hi, two things, first, when I went to the sight and clicked download, it > said that Firefox couldn't find the server. > ALso, I'm not to for the suround sound deal. Its a good feature but it > should have the ability to be turned off. Face it, if you live with your > parents, they don't want to hear that blaring through the house. You should > also be able to use headphones. > But I am all for the mouse. Its much better and people are afraid because > they've never seen a mouse before? Hmm, I think we need to try new things > and this is definitely a faster method of navigation. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:40 PM > Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo > > > Hi, Kevin. > Seeing as I am also a developer I know that the ITT market almost > always targets the medium to high range PCs, and leaves lower end PCs in > the dust. There are several reasons for doing so, but the short answer > is that when the product is done we expect that computers will have been > upgraded, or those buying new PCs will be already getting the system > requirements. > Sometimes the system requirements are a inexpensive upgrade like a > better sound card and speakers. I know for example the Soundblaster Live > can be had between $30 and $45. Speakers depends on how much the person > is willing to spend but usually ranges from $50 to $100. > If the developer targets the low end PCs to have universal compatibility > what ends up happening is while all PCs may be able to run the app the > end users aren't buying a product as good as it could be, and the > product does not take advantage of the newer PCs. It also ends up > cutting the application short of what it could really do on a better system. > Like for example no one really expects Windows XP to be compiled for a > 486 processor. If it did it would run much slower on Pentium IV > processors, have less graphics, etc. > However, when compiled for a Pentium II processor it runs well on that > kind of system and even better on better systems, because it can take > advantage of the better processor speed, have more animated graphics, > etc. In short we don't want people to be cheated out of taking every > advantage of the better and newer computers. > > > > kevin and emma wrote: > >> not too mention the fact you can't expect software developers to design >> their state of the art products to take into account the lowest spec pc >> around. if they did windows 95 would still be supported for example. hmm! >> not sure that quite makes sense! grin. times move on!and no i don't have a >> surround system either as yet. but it's on the list of upgrades to make on >> this heap of microchips! *smile* >> Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list >> contact me via email/msn: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:57 PM >> Subject: Re: audyssey: mouse targeting demo >> >> >> >> >>> Hi, Alex. >>> Just because a game uses 3D audio, and you don't have a sound card and >>> speakers which supports it won't prevent you from playing the game. >>> However, you will have a less ritcher experience. >>> Let me give you an example. If there is an enemy to your North-West. On >>> a 5.1 3D setup you would hear it in your Left forward speaker. On a >>> standard stereo setup you will hear it out of your left speaker. So you >>> will be able to figure out if the enemy is left or right, but not be >>> able to ttell if it is front or behind you. >>> With a good 3D virtual environment you will be able to hear sounds >>> front, back, left, and right. On a stereo setup all you can hope for is >>> left and right. >>> One thing that will help in a full game is having a targeting cue like a >>> beep which is in SOD 1.2 which allows you to shoot the targets. >>> As far as developers coming up with two versions that is honestly not >>> cost effective. Simulating a virtual 3D environment is the way of the >>> future. Those who want to stick with the trends need to invest in >>> hardware that is compatible. >>> You can have yourself a cheep 3D setup for just over $100 with a SB Live >>> Value card and some Creative Labs 4.1 speakers. >>> >>> >>> >>> alex wallis wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi list. >>>> Ok first off i like the idea of using the mouse as a way of targeting >>>> >>>> >> that's a cool idea. >> >> >>>> However i do think that it shouldn't be assumed that everyone has a >>>> >>>> >> surround sound system on there pcs especially those with older pcs. >> >> >>>> I for example have a fairly knew pc but it doesn't have surround sound >>>> >>>> >> the same is true of my laptop. >> >> >>>> It is for this reason that i think there should either be 2 versions one >>>> >>>> >> for sterio and one for surround sound users or the game should have 2 >> > modes > >> one sterio and one surround sound. >> >> >>>> I do though really like the concept. >>>> Just my thoughts. >>>> Alex. >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> to leave send a blank Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> You can contact the list owners/moderators by Emailing >>>> >>>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>>> to go nomail send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> change "nomail" to "normal" to resume messages. >>>> Yahoo! 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