Hello, Kai.
I also have a Rumblepad, and I have been iching to program a game around 
it. Especially, to get the ff working for light saber feel. I will be 
testing this out in the game demo I am working on. While not the full 
FPS title the arcade game will have many of the features I plan to 
include in the larger title.
Now, it is just a matter of deciding on which of my ideas I want to use 
for the demo. Grin.


Kai wrote:
> Greetings Thomas.
>
> Interesting that you should mention the game control setup. I have a
> Logitech Rumblepad II, which is modeled after the PS2-type controllers.
> This means I have access to two analog sticks, a digital POV-hat, and
> approximately 12 programmable buttons.
>
> With this kind of set-up, the POV-Hat could be used to manipulate menus,
> the left analog stick for character movement, and the right for saber
> control. And since each stick is depressible, the left producing button
> 11 and the right producing button 12 when depressed, you could program
> the left analog stick as follows :
> Button 11 + forward: Jump forward.
> Button 11 + back: jump backwards.
> Button 11 + left/right: Jump left/right, respectively.
> Button 11 on its own: Duck/kneal.
> Button 12: Saber strike.
>
> You could then set up multiple patterned movements of left and right
> sticks, plus the various other buttons to create special saber
> techniques, character maneuvers, etc.
> I really see the game controller method as the most flexible.
>
> Kai
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: audyssey: starwars storyline stuff
>
>
> Hi, Joseph.
> In the case of the star Wars game the saber will be able to be 
> controlled by keyboards, joysticks, mice, etc.
>
>
> Joseph Weakland wrote:
>   
>> if you did develop such a game would keyboard be able to manage sabre
>>     
> movement or would be just mouse control
>   
>>  
>> joseph weakland
>> email/msn messenger:
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>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From:   Thomas   Ward 
>>   To: [email protected]   
>>   Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:16   AM
>>   Subject: Re: audyssey: starwars storyline   stuff
>>   
>>
>> Hi, Allan and Brandon.
>> Your ideas of mouse saber   movement is cool, but just remember we
>>     
> must 
>   
>> stick to a initial production   budget of time and testing and any 
>> physical expenses that
>> may   arise.
>> allan thompson wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> I seem to recall a   computer game when I could see that was called
>>>       
> Die by the 
>   
>>> sword. It   did exactly as you are talking about. The players
>>>       
> character  was 
>   
>>>   third person, and the sword could be controlled with the mouse. It
>>>       
> was   
>   
>>> really neat.
>>> As a matter of fact, that game allowed you to   preprogram sword
>>>       
> movements in, 
>   
>>> so that you could actually invent   sword styles and swings. It would
>>>       
> probably 
>   
>>> be a little too much for   the star wars game we are talking about,
>>>       
> but the 
>   
>>> mouse sword use does   work.
>>> happy holidays,
>>> allan
>>> ----- Original Message   ----- 
>>> From: "Brandon Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>   To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24,   2005 8:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: starwars storyline   stuff
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> No no no, just the   opposite. Keys for movement, mouse for the
>>>>         
> saber.
>   
>>>> ----- Original   Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mike Babcock"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To:   <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24,   2005 8:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: starwars storyline   stuff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> keys for the wheapons, and mouse for the movement of the   person
>>>>>           
> maby?
>   
>>>>> ----------
>>>>> "DAMN MY   CHARISMA"
>>>>> Check out my blog at:
>>>>> http://blindyblog.blogspot.com
>>>>>   I think you will like it. If you set up your own free blog, send
>>>>>           
> it to   
>   
>>>>> me.
>>>>> "And can you offer me proof of your   existence? How can you, when
>>>>>           
> neither
>   
>>>>> modern science, nor   philosophy can explain what life is?" Ghost
>>>>>           
> In the
>   
>>>>>   Shell
>>>>> "Men have always fought each other, have always created   chaos;
>>>>>           
> that's
>   
>>>>> familiar and safe. They always know where they   are in those 
>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>> But,   to
>>>>> Hazardly step into the unknown and love one another is far   to
>>>>>           
> risky for
>   
>>>>> them." Demon City Shin Joku
>>>>> Block   quote end
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original   Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Thomas Ward"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To:   <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December   24, 2005 4:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: starwars storyline   stuff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi, Brandon.
>>>>>> That is another area we   do need to discuss. How to control our
>>>>>>             
> light
>   
>>>>>> saber. I know   in games like Ambush at Altyr 5 you don't get much
>>>>>>             
> choice
>   
>>>>>>   or control over the saber. You Just press control, and  the game
>>>>>>             
> does
>   
>>>>>> it's thing. Which is how it currently works in this   game.
>>>>>> However, I have thought of giving a player control   ove the
>>>>>>             
> saber. Like
>   
>>>>>> left, and right arrow keys to pan left   and right. Problem is
>>>>>>             
> that if the
>   
>>>>>> player needs to move you   will have to be able to move while
>>>>>>             
> using the
>   
>>>>>>   saber.
>>>>>> Same goes for game devices. If we are using a   modern game pad
>>>>>>             
> with two
>   
>>>>>> sticks on it it would be logical   to use one for navigating and
>>>>>>             
> one for
>   
>>>>>>   fighting.
>>>>>> However, I know of several joysticks that only   have one stick on
>>>>>>             
> it, and
>   
>>>>>> they would not be able to do   that at all.
>>>>>> With the mouse you could swing saber left and   right, and
>>>>>>             
> probably make
>   
>>>>>> other moves which would be cool.   However, if you want to use the
>>>>>>             
> mouse
>   
>>>>>> to turn your   character or move it in anyway you are scrued
>>>>>>             
> unless you
>   
>>>>>>   have a special click to disable saber for a while.
>>>>>> So   input is something I think needs to be   discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brandon   Cole   wrote:
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Oooo! That'd be fun! Swing your lightsaber with the   mouse! That
>>>>>>>               
> would
>   
>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>> for   tons of possible saber maneuvers as you fought.
>>>>>>> -----   Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "James from Alchemy"   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To:   <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday,   December 24, 2005 4:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey:   starwars storyline   stuff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Light saber duel.. mouse demo two?   heheh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original   Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>                 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
>>>>>>>>   On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Thomas   Ward
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 1:19   PM
>>>>>>>> To:   [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey:   starwars storyline   stuff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,   Jamie.
>>>>>>>> Without a doubt. No good Star Wars Jedi   game is any good
>>>>>>>>                 
> without a few
>   
>>>>>>>> saber duels.   Smile.
>>>>>>>> Besides storm troopers, droids, etc usually   make boring
>>>>>>>>                 
> enemies.
>   
>>>>>>>> In the couple of games I have   gotten my hands on even a blind
>>>>>>>>                 
> man can
>   
>>>>>>>> kick their   butts with the force. Although, I am playing at the
>>>>>>>>                 
>
>   
>>>>>>>> beginner
>>>>>>>>   level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Jamie Coady   wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> it would be good but you have got to have   light sabers at
>>>>>>>>>                   
> some   point
>   
>>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From:   [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> Behalf   Of allan thompson
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 23 December 2005   21:26
>>>>>>>>> To:   [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: audyssey:   starwars storyline   stuff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I love the movies, not so much the books   of the star wars
>>>>>>>>>                   
> universe. I
>   
>>>>>>>>>   did
>>>>>>>>> however spend many years playing Starwars   in a RPG capacity
>>>>>>>>>                   
> first 
>   
>>>>>>>>>   from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   west
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> end games, then wizards of the   coast.
>>>>>>>>> My suggestion for a story would be kind   of simple.
>>>>>>>>> At the end of revenge of the sith   the emperor had darth vader
>>>>>>>>>                   
> give 
>   
>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   order
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> to shut down the droid army of the   seperatists. Perhaps the
>>>>>>>>>                   
> emperor
>   
>>>>>>>>>   then
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   had
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> this huge  resource stored away   somewhere  for a rainy day.
>>>>>>>>> Now it is   after the return of the jedi and  your character is
>>>>>>>>>                   
> just
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   starting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> his career on Coruscant in the Jedi Temple.   You are given
>>>>>>>>>                   
> the task 
>   
>>>>>>>>>   of
>>>>>>>>> finding out if a rumor is true that a   certain "insert evil
>>>>>>>>>                   
> dark   force
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   using
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> leader here" might have discovered  that   this droid army
>>>>>>>>>                   
> exists and
>   
>>>>>>>>>   would
>>>>>>>>> like nothing better than to find it,   reactivate it and use it
>>>>>>>>>                   
> against
>   
>>>>>>>>>   the
>>>>>>>>> fledgling new   republic.
>>>>>>>>> So your job is to not only discover   the truth of this rumor,
>>>>>>>>>                   
> but to
>   
>>>>>>>>>   foil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> and stop the evil   leader.
>>>>>>>>> This job would take you across the   galaxy as you go into the 
>>>>>>>>>   coruscant
>>>>>>>>> underground to look into the   old  empire vaults for
>>>>>>>>>                   
> information. It
>   
>>>>>>>>>   could
>>>>>>>>> lead the character to tatooine where you   would have to race a
>>>>>>>>>   podracer,
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>   fight a rancor to earn the right to question the new hutt
>>>>>>>>>                   
> crime   lord.
>   
>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>   could fly to the  lava planet mustafar and using a droid
>>>>>>>>>                   
> hack   into
>   
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>   records of the seperatists where you find the operatives of
>>>>>>>>>                   
> the   evil
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   leader
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> doing the same. From there it could be a race   to find the
>>>>>>>>>                   
> three
>   
>>>>>>>>>   seperate
>>>>>>>>> code cubes that will reawaken the   long slumbering droids and
>>>>>>>>>                   
> the   huge
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   droid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> fleet.
>>>>>>>>> This   could involve space battles using turrents like in a new
>>>>>>>>>                   
> hope   to
>   
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   shoot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> incoming fighters, docking with the enemy   battleship and
>>>>>>>>>                   
> trying to
>   
>>>>>>>>>   steal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> of the cubes,  or even fighting off a   bounty hunter hired to
>>>>>>>>>                   
> take you
>   
>>>>>>>>>   out
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> the running.
>>>>>>>>>   In the end, the character would have the cubes stolen from
>>>>>>>>>                   
> him   thru
>   
>>>>>>>>>   trick
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>   or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> betrayal and in the last level the player   must fight  the
>>>>>>>>>                   
> evil leader
>   
>>>>>>>>> himself   before he can fully awaken the droid    army.
>>>>>>>>> Well, that is my two   credits.
>>>>>>>>> If nothing else, I hope it gave you   some interesting ideas.
>>>>>>>>> merry   christmas
>>>>>>>>>   allan
>>>>>>>>>
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