Well said. For those who are working on their own and to do large programming projects does take a lot of passion in what they believe in. The fortitude that James show us by coming back to the list does show his passion in programming accessible games With this said and that being said about James, for me I knew it took courage and fortitude got and I will be supportive and critical at the same times to help James. We all learn from each others and certainly James has been on our minds and prayers. Now we are looking again what James potentional promises to bring accessible games to a new level. We all have dragged our feets, in fear of "What if" or putting of that phone call. James may even have this feeling about lauching a new game and could be looking for an excues to delay the lauch. And no one can blame for such hesitations. For me I am not going to email any more about this subject and pre ordering with any more kidding around or serious matters. I am going to hive James a break and give him a little elbow room and breathing room. So, Mike is right lets not Judge the book by the cover and if its stage fright, lets all give a good guy have a chance to final to shine
Lastly, again, we all have learned things and for those new developers accessible games can use this case and many other great info that comes across this list. And hey, besides finding out new games and getting help, but learning the ins outs of createing games and Marketing them is also a big part of this email list. Thanks Mike for a well done and said email. Thanks for James for sticking in there and to the Mods for me to ramble on and kid around. And big thanks to those who make up the list to have a list to find out about games and to learn those ins and outs. The Future of accessible games is the games that are being played now. For those games getting upgrades and new games coming out will have a impact on future games. And we just can't wait for those games. Like Lone Wolf 13, Ms. or even Packman 9 or Kitchen's Football 102. Its the passion of the programmer and gamers for a certain games that gives them long lives. So, here is my hope for James that his games will have a long live and a bright future in createing accessible games. Crash ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael_feir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: audyssey: montezuma, pre-ordering, etc > Hello, everyone. I would have jumpped in earlier were it not for the > bouncing problem I've been having. Something called sorbs seems to > have gotten it into its electronic head that yahoogroups messages are > spam. Anyhow, enough of my current E-mail sorrows. > > What we have here are two wrongs not making a right. We have a game > that has been unfortunately delayed for an extended period of time > due to unique personal circumstances that its developer had to > contend with. I've been right with all of you in terms of being > frustrated and disappointed with the delays. I've dreamed of playing > this particular game in accessible format since I was a kid. > Experiencing the realisation of such a long-held wish will be a truly > remarkable experience. I'll also have the distinct pleasure of > showing my father how I can play Monty after having him play a remake > of the original game for sighted people. It'll be the first time he > can truly step into my gaming world and fully grasp what's happening. > I hope this leaves people no doubts as to how much I've wanted the > game to come out since I first learned of it last year. > > However, despite this impatience, I've done my best to be supportive > of James and protect the community from its unfortunately short- > sighted self. It makes perfect sense for James to have offered those > customers who have demonstrated their faith in him the reward of a > lower price. This happens all the time in the sighted game market and > there have been cases of even longer delays. This is despite the fact > that there's only one James North and hundreds of employees working > on some of these mainstream games. This argument that a business is a > business just doesn't hold up. When you're dealing with single > individuals working on projects, you have to understand that personal > life can and will get in the way. Failure to do this will result in > game developers being burned out and turned away from serving our > community. > > I don't think James is perfect. However, he has done his best for us > given his circumstances and the emotional draning onslot of > acusations this community has subjected him to. Perhaps, people would > like it better if developers never told us anything until the games > were fully made and ready. There would then certainly not be a > situation like what we've experienced in Monty's case. However, stop > and think a moment. There would be no news at all for months and > months at a time. Developers wouldn't give out any information at all > for fear of paying through the nose for it later. People wouldn't > have any opportunity at all to offer feedback or ideas which could > make games better than they otherwise would have been. Is that the > kind of atmosphere you people want? If so, I'm glad I got out of > editing Audyssey because that job would be absolutely impossible > given those conditions. There just wouldn't be enough to talk about > every three or even six months to warrant publishing an issue. > Getting people to submit material was like pulling teeth even with > things like they are now. > > Those of us who have stuck it out with James will ultimately get a > far superior game to what they would have gotten before. I only know > about some of the improvements he's introduced and can't wait to > experience them all first hand. We'll get our money and time's worth. > This is especially clear to me after reading the manual. If anybody > still has doubts that we'll ultimately get the game, I don't know > what planet they're on. You don't create a manual as detailed as that > or a trailer for a game which doesn't exist. We just have to be > patient and let James do things right. He knows the score. > > There are two oposites when it comes to community relations and game > developers. There are people like James who let the community know > what's coming up and aren't averse to sharing some information. It's > thanks to these brave souls that I was able to build Audyssey into > the magazine and community it became. The advantage is the > suggestions and positive feedback you get while you're working on > projects as well as the trust in your work that people will have when > you're ready to sell. The down side is what happens when things don't > go as planned as we saw in James's case. A whole barrage of things > held Monty up for a lot longer than James wanted and people were > repetedly disappointed with missed release dates. The obvious lesson > here is not to offer release dates at all. I don't think there's any > arguing with that given what's happened. > > On the other hand, you have developers like Bavisoft who just > suddenly appear with new game in hand. Grizzly Gulch just suddenly > appeared one day out of the blue. I'm more than convinced that had > there been more community consultation, it would have been a far > better game. I also suspect that they wouldn't have been as badly > clobbered by pirates as they ultimately were. Communities like ours > thrive on information that only game developers can provide. How long > would people hang around if we never heard about any new games until > they were released? Things would get incredibly boring as people lost > interest in older games. > > Fortunately, there's a middle ground available. Actually, there are > probably several middle grounds. Bavisoft and other developers have > their own separate lists which let them communicate with a more > select group of interested people. They also have access to their own > web sites and could choose to proffer new information only there. > There's also the question of what information to release. I've chosen > to update people on my progress or lack of it every three months in > Audyssey Magazine. That way, people can have an idea what I'm going > through while it's happening. If somebody asks "Why did it take so > long to make Fearless Flin?" I can point them to my developer > diaries. I'll never give any sort of dates at all and I'll always be > certain to make it clear that plans could change on me. This is a > hobby for me until I actually have something ready to sell assuming > I'm ultimately able to create my game. Working at home is quite > different from working at a company even with just Rebecca and I. It > must be tougher by far when you have kids to raise as many developers > do. Things just have a way of coming between you and progress. We as > a community consuming people's creative energies and efforts have to > allow for that. If we don't, we'll see our brightest stars take their > passions elsewhere. > > > > > > to leave send a blank Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can contact the list owners/moderators by Emailing > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > to go nomail send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > change "nomail" to "normal" to resume messages. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > to leave send a blank Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can contact the list owners/moderators by Emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go nomail send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] change "nomail" to "normal" to resume messages. Yahoo! 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