I don't know how many times I've either unsubscribed or left altogether in the past, mostly over the James North flame wars. I wondered for a time if the list had lost control and if a name change was in order. LOL As frustrated as I am over raceway, having paid for it years ago, I'm still willing to give it a chance. Constructive criticism is one thing but the flame wars drive me crazy. Even though the moderators came down hard on Kellie's post, I understand and agree with it. Of course it's up to the moderators to decide what to do about things here. Do know though that more than one person has either left, or seriously considered it over the flame wars. I wish more people would work with each other rather than against. With as much time and energy as I've seen trashing one man operations for, what are perceived to be "inferior" games to our sighted counterparts, it's a wonder that developers are still willing to even develop and release games for us. For those who really believe that what we have in games is that inferior, create your own superior games, use your energy in other pursuits rather than flaming those who are trying to work with us. Submitting constructively criticized bug reports is one thing and should always be encouraged along with suggestions. Once a game has been released, remembering the early days of Alien Outback, James has proven himself willing and capable of listening to constructive criticism and bug reports that are given in a mature manner and each version of the game only got better than the one before. I see that Monty's going to get the same treatment with promised patches. Thank you.
Thank you to all the developers out there who are trying to improve and change the face of accessibility in gaming for the blind. True, there is more I'd like to see, maybe an Everquest type of game, for instance, but I also recognize that the budgets aren't large, especially when dealing with as specialized a market as we are, a large number of us on some form of limited public assistance. May the games continue to get bigger and better, and may we spread the word that there are accessible games now out there for the blind. With a larger income base, and a happier reputation in the community, new people will feel more welcome. Best of all, if the resources and finances are out there to develop, the games will become better I'm convinced. For me, it's sad to see someone like Kellie stretched to the point where she felt that she needed to post her thoughts, controversial as they are. It's sad for me as well to have to agree. Rather than put her down for her thoughts, no matter how people think they were worded, I hope we can work on the community to better and empower ourselves and the community so that this will become a place of escape from the drudgeries of everyday life. Games are created as an escape, not as a source of contention. Let's all work together to make the community the same. If some of us are not willing to do so, let's have some respect for the others and purge ourselves from the community for a time until we can come back with a more appropriate attitude. Travis ----- Original Message ----- From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: RE: audyssey: MONTI You know, this is a great list bar a few trouble makers. I still don't have any idea why they have remained here. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI Hello all, I agree with Kellie, I have thought many a time, to leave this list, and I must admit it's getting more frequent, but as there are more than one game out there, it's what keeps me going. Can I just ask, before sending a message, 'STOP' think, will this enhance the on going thread, or will it only hinder it. That way, those who belong to a number of lists, 'yes' I know it's the individuals choice, how many lists they belong to, but over the last couple of weeks, I must have Deleted well over a thousand messages, and many of which were unread, I only belong to a few, less than six. Come on, lets just cool off, give the Chaps and Chapesses a chance to provide us with what we want, and I think on the whole what they want to give us, yes, at a cost they and only they can set. Sorry for the rambleing, but I just had to get it off my chest. Chris P. At 03:10 28/01/2006, you wrote: >at the rate we are going, another fight is on its way. Everyone is entitled >to their own opinion of the game. I happen to like it, but that doesn't >mean that others have to. If they think it isn't worth the money to invest >into it, that is their choice, and at the same time, those who like the game >are entitled to. both have just as much right to say what they think of it >without critisism, though it should be in a constructive fassion. > >But, i can already see that we are going to end up with name calling and >flaming and darn right immature posts. > >I have never seen any other list bicker like I see on here and it is >rediculous. they are useless messages filled with nothing but, you are a >winer, or bitch bitch bitch, or you are saying this, he does that, his games >should b on time. arguing about days, when things should and shouldn't b >out, let it go, goodness. life is to damned short to be complaining about >something so trivial. >Kellie and my loveable Lady J. >Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened. >msn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >aim sionnain74 >skype, sabrielle > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vapour Wiseblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:44 PM >Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI > > > > Bitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitch > > whinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhine Waaaahhhhh ! Mommy! I want a > > game > > that is free and easy, so I can feel like I'm cool like the big boys.... > > Waaaahhhh!!!!! CRY CRY CRY CRY BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINEWHINEWHINE > > > > -Vapour > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:05 PM > > Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI > > > > > >> that means all of us on laptops will have to use external keyboards. > >> I think this is unfair, there should be a laptop arrow keyboard set or > >> something. > >> What about if you don't want to use the num pad. > >> Another reason not to buy. > >> This is really dissapointing. > >> At 03:12 a.m. 28/01/2006, you wrote: > >>>There is in the full version. You can redefine the keys. However, you > >>>can't > >>>do that in the demo. > >>>Michael Feir > >>>Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine > >>>1996-2004 > >>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Michael Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:06 AM > >>>Subject: audyssey: MONTI > >>> > >>> > >>>>I downloaded the demo, then was reading how to play, and I am playing on > >>>>a > >>>>laptop. 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