Mark, Once I ran into this problem and had to buy and install a self-tapping valve on a line. The copper should be 3/4 inches and it is a job to try to find a 3/4 inch self tapping valve, but they are out there. Most stores carry the 1/2 inch self tapping valves. What I am describing is the valve for a ice maker, or hot water dispenser. I don't know what or how they ran your system, but if it isn't a continuous loop, you might be stuck putting a self tapping valve on the return side of the heating element where ever it drops. If you have some one or if you still can solder, you might be better off, putting a shut off just above where the house supply comes into the system and placing a faucet on the same return line just above that shut off. But once again, is your boiler new, and do you have your expansion tank hook up to a bleeder coming directly off your boiler? RJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system
> here is the problem > it is a single zone system and there is no perging valve as you described > there is only a spicket to drain the entire system > i have tried opening all the bleeder valves on the cast radiators and had > several people sitting there with buckets to catch all the water but no luck > i always thought the air would rise to the highest point but it seems like > this thought is wrong > this is a home i had purchased a few months ago and have been fixing things > as i go now the heating season is here and can not figure out this air bound > problem > can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a self piercing bleeder valve > i can hook up to the copper baseboard to enable me to bleed the air > this is only going to be a temp. fix because i am changing the heating > system in the next few months and will be adding zones when the change is > made > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system > > > > Mark, > > > > What you are describing is a close system. If you look above the pump you > > will feel the feed for your water system from the water supply, just > > above > > that you will feel a 1 1/4 inch shut off valve. Turn it off. just above > > the > > turn off valve you will see a faucet connected to the same return line. I > > don't know how many loops you have in your house, I have three. If I want > > to > > bleed one of the three zones, I will block the two I don't want to bleed > > and > > leave the one open I am bleeding the air out of. In my case it is as > > simple > > as turning down the two thermostats controlling the two zones I don't want > > to bleed. Once the zones are blocked and the zone you wish to bleed is > > open, > > turn on the faucet and force the air out of that zone. > > > > Hope I made myself clear. 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