Sounds like in one area the carpenter's square is too large and in another area
the try square is too small. I suggest making a rectangular piece of wood, say
a 1/4-inch thick hardboard, of the appropriate size to use as a marking square.
That way you could place it where needed and mark your lines from it.
--
Larry Martin
Woodworking for the Blind
--joining the world of blind wood workers
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have a question about aligning small hinges. My radio desk is finished
> except for applying the finishing coat. It will sit in front of an H V A C
> vent so I made a cutout in the back for the air to come through. I don't
> want the cold air to blow on me when I am sitting there so I saved the
> cutout peace and hinged it to make a trap door I can close when I want to.
> I couldn't get the hinges aligned right. They are close enough but I wonder
> if anyone has any little tricks. It is inside and the space is too
> confined to get a carpenter's square inside and the hinges are too far from
> the end wall for a trisquare to reach. This is done and it's not very
> obvious to someone who sees the desk but if I ever have to do this again I
> would like to get it right.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
>
>
> > Thanks Larry,
> >
> > I only hope I didn't leave anything significant out.
> >
> > I was surprised to read in one of the magazines you sent along a use of
> > the
> > biscuit joiner to cut grooves by sliding the unit along while running. It
> > never crossed my mind to do so but it is a quick and should be accurate
> > way
> > of cutting for splines and probably even the grooves to receive drawer
> > bottoms and other applications.
> >
> > Mine is a porter cable which I have had for four or five years now, it
> > includes a small cutter for #0 biscuits which I have used for mitering
> > frames corners. It means changing the cutter blade but pretty cool.
> >
> > I read another article or rather you did but the builder used it to
> > assemble
> > drawer boxes. quick and strong if not classic joinery. For a lot of
> > applications though this is exactly the answer, strong, accurate and fast.
> >
> > Any time that list members feel I may be over stepping they should feel
> > free
> > to say so. I often put quite a bit of effort into writing what I think is
> > a
> > clear explanation or description of things I have done or have observed
> > and
> > I do so because I am grateful for others who have taken the trouble to
> > inform me. It is difficult for most of us blind people to learn from
> > observation and sometimes it is just a very simple concept or
> > understanding
> > which, if missed can become a block to building more learning or
> > understanding. This is not unique to the blind but we have fewer
> > opportunities. I just hope to speed the process for others as others have
> > for me.
> >
> > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Skype DaleLeavens
> > Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
> >
> >
> >> Dale, that was a thorough and well written response on biscuit joiners.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Larry Martin
> >> Woodworking for the Blind
> >> --joining the world of blind wood workers
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Max, it wasn't a router he was using although there are router bits for
> >>> cutting biscuit slots, he was using a specific tool called a biscuit
> >>> joiner
> >>> or also called a plate joiner.
> >>>
> >>> You purchase the biscuits which are actually elongated ovals made of dry
> >>> and
> >>> compressed beach wood. They swell when glue is applied. They come in
> >>> about
> >>> four sizes.
> >>>
> >>> The biscuit does fit or should fit pretty well half way into the slot on
> >>> one
> >>> side how ever it might have looked to you. As for strength, dowels and
> >>> biscuits are not primarily for strengthening although they do that. The
> >>> primary function is to align the joint in most applications. Dowels
> >>> suffer
> >>> from the direction of the grain which is usually across the grain of the
> >>> mating surfaces and glue more firmly attaches in the long direction of
> >>> the
> >>> grain. The other main disadvantage of dowels is that accuracy is
> >>> absolutely
> >>> critical, not only must the holes align absolutely directly but they
> >>> must
> >>> be
> >>> absolutely in line. Biscuit joinery allows for a little error.
> >>>
> >>> The plate joiner has a carbide tipped blade which is on a spring loaded
> >>> travel. There is a fence, these vary from machine to machine but you can
> >>> set
> >>> the fence a particular distance from the slot through which the blade
> >>> will
> >>> protrude and will be parallel to the slot. Most will allow the fence to
> >>> be
> >>> tilted in both directions to allow you to cut slots in mitered
> >>> assemblies
> >>> and other angled fixation of differing angles. You can index off the
> >>> fence
> >>> or index off the bottom flat surface of the joiner.
> >>>
> >>> You then set the fence on the face of a board and bring the face with
> >>> the
> >>> slot tight against the edge of the board holding it there using a handle
> >>> built for that purpose then turn on the machine and using the other hand
> >>> you
> >>> force the cutter through the slot and into the edge against the springs
> >>> which plunges the blade into the edge of the board. Release so it runs
> >>> back
> >>> out with the spring assist then release the trigger so it shuts off.
> >>>
> >>> When I built my work bench I made up a frame rather like the shape of
> >>> angle
> >>> iron using three quarters plywood one edge to the face of the other and
> >>> joined those with biscuits. I then mitered the corners and joined them
> >>> with
> >>> biscuits and clamped them up square. I might have used screws but I
> >>> never
> >>> would have got the corners strong that way and doweling the edges of
> >>> plywood
> >>> isn't all that satisfactory or probably reliable.
> >>>
> >>> when the biscuits get wet with glue not only does the glue bond but they
> >>> swell and actually if you don't work fairly quickly they can be very
> >>> difficult to set. This can be a disat\dvantage, Norm has mentioned on a
> >>> couple of shows that biscuits set too close to the surface can cause
> >>> slight
> >>> dimpling to telegraph through the surface as the glue ages and I suppose
> >>> the
> >>> wood responds to changes in environmental moisture. On a very smooth
> >>> finish
> >>> this can be visible. So far I haven't noticed this.
> >>>
> >>> There is a new unit out there, called a domino joiner I believe, cuts a
> >>> more
> >>> rectangular hole and uses rectangular biscuits and an oscilating cutting
> >>> action. These work more like floating mortise & tennon joints. I am not
> >>> otherwise sure of the advantages, if they index easily enough I suppose
> >>> you
> >>> could use them to join rails & styles without cutting proper mortise &
> >>> tenon
> >>> joints. The biscuit joiners are plenty expensive but these domino
> >>> joiners
> >>> are really a lot more costly.
> >>>
> >>> Generally the correct term is Jointer. The machine is also sometimes
> >>> called
> >>> a planer but more usually that refers to a device for thicknessing the
> >>> face
> >>> of wood or for the hand held planers more usually with a 3 inch wide
> >>> cutter
> >>> head intended primarily for removing stock like the edge of a door.
> >>> Joiner
> >>> is sometimes used to refer to a jointer and I hear it more commonly used
> >>> these days but the manufacturers still seem to refer to them as
> >>> jointers.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps clear things up for you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Skype DaleLeavens
> >>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "Blind Handyman" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:36 PM
> >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Yankee workshop and questions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >I have watched only one episode of the Yankee workshop and already I
> >>> >have
> >>> > questions.
> >>> >
> >>> > He did a bisket joint. They didn't show him making the bisket. Do
> >>> > you
> >>> > buy
> >>> > them pre made? It was elliptical in shape which seems hard to make.
> >>> > He
> >>> > made the cutout with a plunge router which looked like he was making a
> >>> > basically rectangular shaped cutout. When he dropped the bisket into
> >>> > the
> >>> > cutout it didn't fit at all tight. Also it went in more than half the
> >>> > width
> >>> > of the bisket. There was just a little peaking out. All in all this
> >>> > doesn't seem like a very strong joint. In an infomercial I saw
> >>> > someone
> >>> > making a dowel joint. It seems to me to be a much stronger joint.
> >>> > How
> >>> > does
> >>> > a bisket joint compare to a dowel joint. Also I'm not sure but I
> >>> > think
> >>> > he
> >>> > was using some kind of guide to keep the router in the center of the
> >>> > edge
> >>> > of
> >>> > the board. If there is such a thing, what is it called?
> >>> >
> >>> > Also a pronunciation question. Dale and I had a conversation the
> >>> > other
> >>> > night on FTP about a jointer. The yankee used one on the show but he
> >>> > pronounced it joiner. Which is correct? Does it depend on where you
> >>> > come
> >>> > from?
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards.
> >>> >
> >>> > Max. K 4 O D S.
> >>> >
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