What do you guys think of the Schwinn Airdyne for an exercise bike, 
as compared to other bikes?

earlier, Little Freak, wrote:

>True , its not for building massive bulk of muscles, for that you will need
>free weights.
>
>
>thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:38 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>I tried one of those total Gym things and even with it set at its highest
>incline it was way to easy.
>I was hoping that over the years something had evolved that might replace
>free weights but obviously nothing has so it is off to the local sporting
>goods store to invest in an Olympic weight set, a half dozen pares of
>dumbbells and a basic heavy duty bench. I can rig a pull-up bar in one end
>of the shop where I can do pull-ups, chins, hanging leg raises and hanging
>crunches.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:[email protected]
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:24 PM
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>Chuck Norris still looks pretty good for a guy in his 60s but I'd put a
>paycheck on the fact that little gym he advertises isn't all he does in a
>day.
>
>I did personal training in college with stroke victims. The only good thing
>I could find about a machine was they didn't have to stabilize the weight.
>Once you could assess their needs and how much spotting was necessary
>everyone of my clients wanted to give up the machines.
>
>I would still like to find a good deal on a lat pull down machine but beyond
>that I can't thing of a machine I'd want in the house. At least not a
>workout machine...
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Stansifer
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:15 PM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>Basically dale my workout consists of a daily four mile run and a one body
>part per day workout. I do this on a rotating basis so that my rest days
>never fall on the same days of the week. I usually work out in the morning
>with an afternoon or evening run depending on my schedule. I agree with you
>completely with respect to exercise machines. They never seem to deliver as
>promised.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:[email protected]
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:06 PM
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>Better is a relative term.
>
>Decide on your goals, what is your objective? Once you figure that out you
>will better know what it is you need to achieve that.
>
>For cardio vascular aerobic exercise I have a Nordic Track cross country ski
>machine. It does take a little skill to get the hand of it and not everyone
>likes that aspect of it but it doesn't take long to get up a good sweat and
>keep it. On the other hand I don't much like those elliptical trainers, they
>are like walking on the moon bobbing up and down like that but many people
>really like them.
>
>The trouble with free weights is the room they need, fortunately for me I
>suppose I am short enough that I can snatch without driving them through the
>ceiling but not everyone can.
>
>None of the mechanical weight circuits accurately reflect the weight being
>used. You can pin any number to the stack but most use pulleys not only to
>change direction but often they loop in such a way to give mechanical
>advantage, that is, pull three feet on the cable and the weight rises a foot
>and a half, that sort of thing. There is also the inertia of the machine to
>take into account and friction of moving parts too. Many also use cams to
>try to equalize the force or direction so that the resistance is closer to
>the actual direction of the work but these too alter the actual amount of
>weight being moved. In that sense free weights are the only really accurate
>and reliable measure of resistance. Even though you can technically
>calculate and allow for mechanical disadvantage or advantage as the case may
>be I can assure you having hung actual weight from a number of weight
>training machines that there isn't any reliable relationship between the
>weight load on the stack and ! the actual balancing load on the handle.
>this isn't necessarily true for all units but I haven't yet met one with an
>accurate relationship.
>
>The point of those machines is to save room. If the bands on a Bowflex or
>what ever else are calibrated in pounds or dirometers is not relevant.
>They
>should probably be calibrated just as the stereo,. Just a number so you can
>return to the same one dependably when you want.
>
>It seems to me that most of us as blind people want the aerobic exercise,
>the cardiopulmonary work-out. Some may ride a tandem bike but mostly we lack
>that opportunity, even a brisk walk isn't really all that satisfying because
>of the energy used in wayfinding and avoiding overhanging trees or parked
>cars. Running a dog I suppose for some might be an option and maybe some do
>that I haven't ever seen it but it is possible.There are treadmills and ski
>machines and elliptical trainers and exercise cycles. Swimming if convenient
>and you have access to a long enough pool for some good lengths can be a
>pretty good option. I used to enjoy cross country skiing but it does require
>a partner and that isn't always convenient for me, either I am busy or they
>are busy and eventually it falls apart. Used to ride a tandem bike too but
>the same problem. I haven't been working out in my exercise room much for a
>long time, by the time I finish work and now am in the middle of a couple of
>sho! p projects then there is snow to shovel and in the summer gardening and
>grass to cut and on it goes. Hooking up with someone for a bike ride or a
>ski, it just doesn't happen.
>
>Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that one shouldn't get too fixated on
>the weights displayed either on the pulley circuits or the band type
>machines or even those hydraulic pistons. Do consider the structure of the
>equipment, noise, things like size and durability. If it isn't convenient
>you won't use it and if it isn't comfortable you won't use it. If it folds
>up and fits under your bed that is probably where it will stay.
>
>These are just my observations over what is now approaching 40 years of
>personal experience and observation of literally thousands of others.
>
>Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet
>Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Stansifer
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:48 PM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>I use free weights a lot in the gym and was actually considering buying a
>bench based system that includes a squott station, leg curl and quad curl
>station but when I tried it out in the store it felt really flimsy and like
>it wanted to come apart and that was just using the 110 LB included weight
>set. Most of that stuff looks like toys to me. A couple of guys on Carol's
>department have bowflexes but like the soloflex they make you look better
>than you really are.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>[mailto:[email protected]
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:22 AM
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>I have free weights so I'm probably no help. I don't know if they still make
>it or not, but I can say beware of the soloflex gym. That was the one with
>"resistance bands." A friend bought one and I could bench the highest
>resistance band which said it was 500 pounds. Great for the ego but not
>realistic. At that time I could do half that weight on a good day. Maybe
>someone else will have a better recommendation.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Stansifer
>To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:05 PM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
>This morning while slaving away on the squat-rack in my local gym, one of
>the girls on the front desk told me that they were moving to a larger
>facility on the other side of town. Much to far to walk besides which
>interstate15 is in the way.
>Do any of you folks have any suggestions for a home gym alternative? I need
>something that can provide a total body workout and with at least 300 LB's
>of resistance.
>
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