please do so. thanks. 

thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 6:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

There is a list on Yahoo groups called gsdguides where we can discuss all
things German shepherd related. Pretty much every school in the country is
represented and all of the members provide a unique and diversified
information base.
If you folks are interested I can scrounge up the subscribe information and
foreword it to the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:42 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

I got mine from Seeing Eye.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:littlefreak%40blindmanworld.com> >
To: <[email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms

> just wondering did you get your Sheppard from Fidelco?
>
>
> thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:littlefreak%40blindmanworld.com> ) -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Larry 
> Stansifer
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:55 PM
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> Dale,
>
> I have A German Shepherd guide dog and he and I have a course worked 
> out. Very long straight stretches and very few intersections.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:14 PM
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> Just curious,
>
> Do you run alone? Do you have enough sight to run unaccompanied or 
> just how do you work that out?
>
> I have a lot of essentially open roads around here but I can never be 
> sure that a car or truck or even a trailer of some sort won't get left 
> parked in some unexpected place.
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net>  
> <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, 
> Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Stansifer
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> Basically dale my workout consists of a daily four mile run and a one 
> body part per day workout. I do this on a rotating basis so that my 
> rest days never fall on the same days of the week. I usually work out 
> in the morning with an afternoon or evening run depending on my 
> schedule. I agree with you completely with respect to exercise 
> machines. They never seem to deliver as promised.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:06 PM
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> Better is a relative term.
>
> Decide on your goals, what is your objective? Once you figure that out 
> you will better know what it is you need to achieve that.
>
> For cardio vascular aerobic exercise I have a Nordic Track cross 
> country ski machine. It does take a little skill to get the hand of it 
> and not everyone likes that aspect of it but it doesn't take long to 
> get up a good sweat and keep it. On the other hand I don't much like 
> those elliptical trainers, they are like walking on the moon bobbing 
> up and down like that but many people really like them.
>
> The trouble with free weights is the room they need, fortunately for 
> me I suppose I am short enough that I can snatch without driving them 
> through the ceiling but not everyone can.
>
> None of the mechanical weight circuits accurately reflect the weight 
> being used. You can pin any number to the stack but most use pulleys 
> not only to change direction but often they loop in such a way to give 
> mechanical advantage, that is, pull three feet on the cable and the 
> weight rises a foot and a half, that sort of thing. There is also the 
> inertia of the machine to take into account and friction of moving 
> parts too. Many also use cams to try to equalize the force or 
> direction so that the resistance is closer to the actual direction of 
> the work but these too alter the actual amount of weight being moved. 
> In that sense free weights are the only really accurate and reliable 
> measure of resistance. Even though you can technically calculate and 
> allow for mechanical disadvantage or advantage as the case may be I 
> can assure you having hung actual weight from a number of weight 
> training machines that there isn't any reliable relationship between 
> the weight load on the stack and ! the actual balancing load on the
handle.
> this isn't necessarily true for all units but I haven't yet met one 
> with an accurate relationship.
>
> The point of those machines is to save room. If the bands on a Bowflex 
> or what ever else are calibrated in pounds or dirometers is not 
> relevant. They should probably be calibrated just as the stereo,. Just 
> a number so you can return to the same one dependably when you want.
>
> It seems to me that most of us as blind people want the aerobic 
> exercise, the cardiopulmonary work-out. Some may ride a tandem bike 
> but mostly we lack that opportunity, even a brisk walk isn't really 
> all that satisfying because of the energy used in wayfinding and 
> avoiding overhanging trees or parked cars. Running a dog I suppose for 
> some might be an option and maybe some do that I haven't ever seen it 
> but it is possible.There are treadmills and ski machines and 
> elliptical trainers and exercise cycles. Swimming if convenient and 
> you have access to a long enough pool for some good lengths can be a 
> pretty good option. I used to enjoy cross country skiing but it does 
> require a partner and that isn't always convenient for me, either I am 
> busy or they are busy and eventually it falls apart. Used to ride a 
> tandem bike too but the same problem. I haven't been working out in my 
> exercise room much for a long time, by the time I finish work and now 
> am in the middle of a couple of sho! p projects then there is snow to 
> shovel and in the summer gardening and grass to cut and on it goes. 
> Hooking up with someone for a bike ride or a ski, it just doesn't 
> happen.
>
> Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that one shouldn't get too 
> fixated on the weights displayed either on the pulley circuits or the 
> band type machines or even those hydraulic pistons. Do consider the 
> structure of the equipment, noise, things like size and durability. If 
> it isn't convenient you won't use it and if it isn't comfortable you 
> won't use it. If it folds up and fits under your bed that is probably 
> where it will stay.
>
> These are just my observations over what is now approaching 40 years 
> of personal experience and observation of literally thousands of 
> others.
>
> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net>  
> <mailto:DLeavens%40puc.net> Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, 
> Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Stansifer
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> I use free weights a lot in the gym and was actually considering 
> buying a bench based system that includes a squott station, leg curl 
> and quad curl station but when I tried it out in the store it felt 
> really flimsy and like it wanted to come apart and that was just using 
> the 110 LB included weight set. Most of that stuff looks like toys to 
> me. A couple of guys on Carol's department have bowflexes but like the 
> soloflex they make you look better than you really are.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 11:22 AM
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> I have free weights so I'm probably no help. I don't know if they 
> still make it or not, but I can say beware of the soloflex gym. That 
> was the one with "resistance bands." A friend bought one and I could 
> bench the highest resistance band which said it was 500 pounds. Great 
> for the ego but not realistic. At that time I could do half that 
> weight on a good day. Maybe someone else will have a better 
> recommendation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Stansifer
> To: [email protected] 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:05 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Home Gyms
>
> This morning while slaving away on the squat-rack in my local gym, one 
> of the girls on the front desk told me that they were moving to a 
> larger facility on the other side of town. Much to far to walk besides 
> which interstate15 is in the way. Do any of you folks have any 
> suggestions for a home gym alternative? I need something that can 
> provide a total body workout and with at least 300 LB's of resistance.
>
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