Dan,

They have had tankless water heaters a lot longer than that. It is nearly 40 
years ago I first saw them in England and they were usually very old and in 
very old buildings. The most common were a round cylinder like device about 8 
inches in diameter and probably 30 inches tall hung on the wall over a sink. 
There was a gas line and a water line to the unit and a hot and cold valve to a 
spigot hanging over the basin. When lighted the gas ignited from a pilot 
sending flame up around closely packed fins radiating out from the center of 
the core with a copper line spiraling through them. The water was heated as it 
passed through the core and before coming out the spigot. The cold water tap 
would not cause the gas to ignite. There were two other valves, one to open the 
main gas and the other which allowed the pilot to be lighted.

The slum flat we first called home in West Ealing had the heater, more commonly 
known as a geyser connected to a coin operated gas meter along with an ancient 
gas range. The range did not employ pilot lights, you ignited your oven or 
burners (known as rings) or the grill with a match or a flint, there were also 
long battery powered glow lighters which were Janet's preference.

In the bathroom which was shared with three other flats there was a big square 
geyser fixed to the wall over the back end of the tub with an exhaust pipe 
projecting out through a thin plywood panel installed in the place of a pane of 
glass in the window. The cold water would be run in from a tap on the usual end 
of the tub. The gas meter was up near the ceiling, the only way for most people 
to reach it would be to climb up on the sink or bring a chair down to the 
bathroom with you. It took between two shillings to 2 & 6 pence to fill the 
bath with good hot water. In the winter, the room was so cold that you would 
stand well wrapped until the bath was well full before slipping into the hot 
water.

The kitchen range and the kitchen geyser were not vented and the room only 8 
feet square, I suppose they counted on the poor fitting of the windows to allow 
for that. 

When they converted from manufactured gas to North Sea natural gas they 
replaced some of the parts in that ancient range but not the geysers. They had 
to replace the range of the old woman in the flat below us, I suppose because 
of the age of the unit they removed. It was a stinking old hulk we had to pass 
on the landing for weeks I remember, I marveled that it hadn't spontaneously 
combusted from the thick grease coating the entire thing.


 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Re: Why Choose a Tankless Water Heater?


  I would say that "not perfected" is a bit strong since folks in Europe 
  have been using tankless water heaters for a couple of decades now.

  Taking a quick look on www.rinnai.com and www.bosch.com looking at their 
  residential models shows a minimum flow rate for activation of 0.5 or 0.6 
  GPM on most models. Some models went as high as 0.9 GPM, but those looked 
  like much larger models.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


   


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