Axiomatically, the joint shouldn’t be soldered with the gas live!!!!
When soldered, the gas should be introduced incrementally in order to
establish any issues with the installation!
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of NLG
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
Oh, now I see he said "from the UK" at the end of his message.
My concern was...If a dwelling had soldered joints in the gas line and there
was a fire in that dwelling, the heat would melt the solder and gas would be
fueling the fire.
----- Original Message -----
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He said " in the U.K."
Here, we have a standard and if the system is checked by a registered
inspector, then it is deemed OK.
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:23 PM
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Where do you live?
I ask because here in the United States, I can't believe that soldering
"any" gas line would pass code.
----- Original Message -----
From: martin webster
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 15:52
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
Hi,
The most accurate way of testing for leaks is with a water or digital
manometer. At the gas meter and within a gas appliance there are small brass
plugs which you use for perging the pipe work and appliance of gas. These
are all so used to run pressure tests. you would undo one of these and
attach your manometer and repressurize the line. Once the line or appliance
is at it's required working pressure, *usually milly bars) you would then
shut off the gas and watch for pressure drop. if there is a leak even a
minnute leak, you will see the water drop down the scale on the manometer.
My sighted girl friend checks the manometer for me. There are all so really
good gas leak testers which are hand held and audible, and there's all so
your nose. I have both manometer and gas leak tester which I can use to go
round any joins I have soldered. Of course I have a nose too, but the
manometer and tester are much more accurate, the tester being able to
detect as litttle as 30 parts gas per one million parts of air which is
the industry standard, the tester is of course variable and the manometer
being able to measure pressure in milly bars, so both pieces of iquipment
used in conjunction with one another is the way a gas fitter would do this.
The manometer for testing a whole line or appliance, and the tester for
finding any leaks. Tip, when replacing the brass test plugs use a little gas
ceal. This is like a grease which gas fitters use, and it's all so good for
insuring a good ceal on the rubber hose that attaches the manometer to the
line you are testing. The test that Cy speaks about is known as the old
match test and indeed is a reliable way of testing for small leaks, the
danger with this test is you may get a build up of gas, and you can have a
flash I do know of people who still use it though. The flash point for gas
or a build up of gas in any given size room is five percent. Hope this
helps.
Martin Webster.
>From the UK.
--- On Sat, 4/26/08, Cy Selfridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Cy Selfridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, April 26, 2008, 6:59 PM
David,
Now, I know you are going to think that I am a liar - but - one of the
local
plumbers tests for leaks by lighting a rolled newspaper and passes it
around
the new connection. The first time I saw him do this I was headed for some
other place to be!
I suppose that so long as there was not a build up of gas this is probably
safe but, no thanks folks.
The soap you spoke of is something like Dawn dishwashing soap. It will do
a
great job of bubbling up if there is a leak.
Cy, the Ancient Okie....
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To: blindhandyman@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
How do you test for a gas leak my friend? I've watch plumbers rub soap on
the connections and look for bubbles.
David Ferrin
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] do you really want to be a plumber?
> Hi,
> I think the answer to this question is yes and know. Plumbers work on
> many different
> sites and in many different locations in one week, and this you would
have
> a problem
> with as a totally blind individual. I do much work for family and good
> friends, and the kind of work I do is plumb
> in washing machines, dish washers, move radiators, move sinks, install
> outside taps,
> and much more. You could certainly learn to master many of the
techniques
> involved
> in plumbing even soldering won't be a problem if you feel you can cope
> with it.
> There are different levels of training for this profession and not all
> plumbers take
> them all, for instance if you want to train to install and maintain gas
> appliances
> such as fires, boilers, kilns and spa systems, then that's a different
> level of
> training again. I do all the maintance myself On my own combination
> theating and
> hot water system, and then pay to have it gas tested after woulds. I all
> so have a carbonmonoxcide detector installed near the appliance. Safety
> is Paramount when dealing with gas. I have never
> had a problem though working in this way, and feel totally comfortable
> doing this type of
> work as a totally blind man. Again, with soldering I have know problems,
> I use a
> T500 turbo torch which burns butane, propane, or mapp gas depending on
> what I'm doing.
> Just use really good turbo mats and I mean really good ones and you will
> be fine. All so remember to totally purge any gas pipe work that you are
> about to solder, I kid you not.
> Again I feel very comfortable with this kind of work and tooling, and I
> cannot stress this
> enough. If your not comfortable with any of this forget the whole thing.
> I do own a water filled manometer, which my sighted girl friend reads to
> me, and this I use for checking gas pressures. The talking multimeter
> from
> Germany
> can check pressures, but I don't know how useful it would be for this
type
> of work.
> I've never examined one so I couldn't say. So to sum all this up, you
> could learn to do the work in an environment you new, and to a very high
> standard too, but I think not in the real world. Hope this helps a
> little.
> Regards.
> Martin Webster.
> From the UK.
>
>
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