Don't put water into clay! It becomes impossible to dig and lift and you can't 
get the damn stuff off of your digging tools or your boots.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Baldwin 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.


  Waste vent is the pipe that runs out the roof of your house, usually 3-4
  inches in diameter. All the other drain lines should come to this main
  stack.
  Fill the hole with a few inches of water and let it soak in over night, or
  for a day or so, the soil will be easier to dig out, or probe in.
  Michael



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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:02 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.

  What is a waste stack?

  The waste management guy was no help about the location of the line. his
  exact words were "that is between you and your plumber." He seemed a little
  irritated that we would even bother him with questions about where the city
  main is. :)

  I do not know what the pipe is made of.
  Also, I can not do a probe at the bottom of the trench we have because the
  clay down there is to hard. My husband can barely get the shovel in more
  than an inch or so at a time and he is a big guy with experience digging and
  is using a sharp shooter.

  Jennifer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: RJ 
  To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.

  Did you try a roter snake? That could be the answer to the problem, instead
  of all the digging. The municipality might be able to give you a location
  where the pipe is. Or if you have a waste stack, you might want to put a
  hole in it and enter a snake from it. Than place a 3 inch saddle on the
  stack and add a clean out. What is the pipe made of. Cast iron, Plastic, or
  etc. and 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jennifer Jackson 
  To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 13:52
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] I am back and have a sewer line problem.

  Hey Guys,

  Please do not take this badly, :) but I am back because of a desperate
  problem that I know you all can help me with. Even if that help is have a
  drink and call the plumber. :) I noticed some new names in the digest, so I
  will take just a moment to introduce myself and then get right to my sewer
  problem.

  I am Jennifer and I live in Oklahoma with my three young sons and my
  husband. I am not very handy, but have learned so much from this list in the
  past and gained a lot of confidence about what I can do myself.

  Ok, here we go with the sewer line. I have a partial block. Enough of a
  block that my washing machine and dishwasher back up and send water over
  flowing out of the half bath there by the laundry room. As you can imagine
  this does not make me very happy, though my floors are looking extra clean
  these days from the bleach water and other detergents. :) We tried some
  nasty chemicals and the snake on the line and no luck. It turns out that we
  do not have a ground level clean out for the plumbers to use so our home
  warranty is not going to cover this either.

  So now we are trying to install the ground level clean out, but we can not
  find the sewer line. We have a clean out just outside the kitchen sink on
  the wall of the house and the plumber said that most likely our sewer line
  will run straight out from there. There is about ten feet of concrete
  between the house and the yard though and we have been told that may mean it
  is as much as four to six feet deep that far out. We had the electric and
  what not lines marked and have a pretty narrow window to dig in to find this
  stupid line. We are now just over four and a half feet down and into hard
  packed clay. Should we try widening the trench before we go deeper? Any
  other tips or suggestions? 

  Jennifer

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