What is meant by cope it out? earlier, Dale Leavens, wrote:
>Well, it is no accident that the cope is the long traditional way of >closing an inside corner. > >Outside corners of course need to be mitered. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: RJ >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:21 PM >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] mitering trim > >The easiest way is to cut the miter and than cope it out. With >little or no sight, I find this to be the easiest. Plus the sighted >world tells me the miter is great. >RJ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dale Leavens >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:44 PM >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] mitering trim > >Where are you mitering to? > >The usual way to fit baseboards is to cope the inside corners and >only miter the outside corners. The next problem is setting the saw >correctly. Sighted people have to worry about parallax, that is, >looking straight on at a ruler or the line marked on stock to be >cut. We have another problem, the edge of a tape measure or even a >story stick has some thickness and the kerf of a saw blade has some >thickness more than the body of the blade. Then, are you measuring >to the same side of the blade? Not a silly question but an easy >enough error to make and modern carbide blades take out nearly an >eight of an inch of material when they cut. Finally, if you are >using a talking tape measure you are only accurate to within a 16th >of an inch. add to that you could be measuring on the shy side of >the 16th and transferring to the proud side of the 16th and you >could be off nearly an eighth. Add that to the mating piece and you >could be off nearly a quarter of an inch. > >Even professionals though do often sneak up on a cut with power equipment. > >If measuring inside corner to inside corner then the narrowest >dimension over the width of the trim is the correct measure on the >long (back) side. If you are using the face then you must subtract >twice the thickness of the trim material. Measuring the face though >is very difficult to do accurately because you can't get your >measuring device snug into the angle where the tip of the teeth meet >the board. Sighted people look down to the point where the teeth >will be just clipping off the pencil line and they will use a very >sharp pencil to draw a very thin crisp line. > >At the other side, because the teeth attack on the outer angle your >measuring device will either be nearly the thickness of the blade >away from where the outer edge will shave off the wood or it will be >the thickness of the blade too short, a distance increased by the 45 >degree angle which is the root of the sum of the squares of which >the thickness of the blade forms the hypotenuse. > >Eventually though you do learn to fudge the measure a little to get >you very close. With a good miter saw or well tuned and highly >accurate table saw and the material well fixed down it is possible >to shave a whisker off of a cut which brings us back to that >recently and lengthy discussion of inexpensive table saws. It >doesn't take long to spend several hundred dollars on waste material. > >----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Howell >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:35 PM >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] mitering trim >,Folks, I'm in the process of cutting baseboard and the like to install >in the living room after the flooring project. Now for some reason I >just can't seem to get this baseboard cut properly. I have lets say a >measurement of 6 3/4 and I place the baseboard on the miter saw and I >have tried both measuring with the blade at a 0 angle and then also at >the proper 45 degree angle. In both cases it seems that it's just not >coming out right, it comes out to short. So, can someone offer some >tips on mitering trim so when I cut the pieces, I get the 6 3/4 I need >and the ends will stick out enough to mate up with the other 45-degree >angles to cover the corner? If this didn't make sense, please let me >know. >I'd like to get this right and not waste a lot of material. > >tnx > >Scott Howell ><mailto:s.howell%40verizon.net>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >---------------------------------------------------------- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: >7/6/2008 5:26 AM > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >---------------------------------------------------------- > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: >7/6/2008 5:26 AM > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: >7/6/2008 5:26 AM John [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
