Check it out carefully, they were probably not poured as a single piece. 
Usually there are expansion joints or partitions between sections and it may 
even bee that the leading edge of each step is sitting on the trailing edge of 
the step below. That is probably how I would have poured them.

Certainly you can lift and pack under. The trouble is usually getting a 
suitable lift under the step. They tend to want to crack. You can probably lift 
with bottle jacks by digging under and setting a base chunk of plank under the 
jack and another under the slab so the top of the jack doesn't just crumble the 
cement and the weight of the slab doesn't just drive the jack into the mud 
below.

You can lift it one side at a time and fit a bit of a crib under the corners 
corner by corner until it is high enough to allow your raise as well as enough 
room to work the sand under it with a plank or screed or what ever then lower 
it removing the cribbing and ultimately packing sand into the space left by the 
cribs.

You could get someone with a back hoe to just tip it up on one edge and brace 
it there while you raise the sand then drop it back. It can be tough work but 
so is smashing it up, finding a way to haul it away then forming and pouring a 
new slab. I have done both and dislike both about equally.



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway


  Hey Dale to dovetail onto this topic. I have some long steps, I'd say 
  perhaps 4 feet in length that run along the front of my house. The top 
  step is sinking some and I was wondering if it could be lifted out, 
  the area repact, and then set the same step slab deal back into place? 
  I assume I'd have to cut it away from the other steps and reattach in 
  some fashion once all is completed.

  On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Dale Leavens wrote:

  > If you are talking about a concrete driveway which has been poured 
  > then having a machine in to lift it out is probably the best 
  > although it is not impossible to regrade the area and reuse the 
  > pads. The trouble is that the bottoms are likely uneven and of 
  > various thickness so getting them level can certainly be tough. If 
  > the blocks are manufactured and therefore consistent then repairing 
  > is a lot more practical.
  >
  > Usually though concrete slabs, manufactured or otherwise crack and 
  > split and that just is trouble.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Robert Riddle
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:18 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway
  >
  > Our driveway is so old and pitted, I think we'd have to tear the 
  > whole thing up and start over again. This thing has thigh high weeds 
  > coming out of it, 1 or even 2 foot gaps between the paving blocks, 
  > six to 12 inch levels between the blocks. I look at it and it seems 
  > almost hopeless to fix without, as I said, tearing the whole thing 
  > down and starting over. Or just leaving it as dirt.
  > I'm not really looking forward to shoveling this winter, I can tell 
  > you.
  > me.
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Dale Leavens
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:43 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway
  >
  > Well now not all of this is necessarily correct.
  >
  > This sort of paving works best where there is a lot of traffic 
  > because the rolling keeps it warm and moving. In colder climates 
  > variable contraction and expansion resulting from heat and cold or 
  > from variable ground moisture can cause small cracks. Weed and other 
  > seed, dust, all sorts of stuff get into those small cracks 
  > regardless of the sub-soil and even small trees can begin to grow in 
  > these cracks. The power of this vegetation is really quite 
  > remarkable and will begin expanding cracks or even breaking up the 
  > pavement.
  >
  > There is a limit to how large of a crack one can satisfactorily 
  > repair with cold roll or other products and some of the restriction 
  > will depend on the size and weight of the equipment one can bring to 
  > bear but it is not at all unusual for the home owner to back cut 
  > cracks in pavement to produce a reasonably clean edge, scrape out 
  > the crack to remove the vegetation and then to pack in one of any 
  > number of commercially available products intended for the purpose 
  > of patching paved driveways. Some stores have so much of the stuff 
  > that they actually sell it. It even comes with recommended 
  > instructions.
  >
  > For best outcomes one should get at the damage early to keep the 
  > damage minimal but these patches can last years.
  >
  > I think I would be tempted to kill the vegetation with something 
  > like Roundup a couple of days or a week before cleaning and patching 
  > to be sure any long roots are dead before patching over and maybe 
  > trickling in a little oil below the patch to discourage new growth 
  > which is probably very ungreen and not legal, maybe after dark when 
  > the blind can often work with impunity.
  >
  > Hope this is helpful Kevin.
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: David Ferrin
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:37 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway
  >
  > Ground down to the solid base and possibly completely dug up back 
  > filled in
  > then freshly compacted. In other words none of us own such massive 
  > tools as
  > would be required for such a job.
  > David Ferrin
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Kevin Doucet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:25 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway
  >
  > > By ground down you mean totally removed or what?
  > >
  > > At 06:29 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote:
  > >
  > >>It's not normally in my opinion something that a handyman can fix 
  > if the
  > >>cracks are deep. The driveway needs to be ground down and 
  > resurfaced.
  > >>David Ferrin
  > >>
  > >>----- Original Message -----
  > >>From: "Kevin Doucet"
  > >><<mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > >>To:
  > >><<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected] 
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  > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:56 PM
  > >>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] repairing or replacing asphalt driveway
  > >>
  > >> >
  > >> >>Hi list,
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > I have places in my asphalt driveway ware grass has grown up and
  > >> > broken the asphalt. Is this something I can fix or do I need to 
  > get
  > >> > it replaced?
  > >> >
  > >> > If replacement is the answer is this cost prohibitive?
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > Thanks.
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > Kevin Doucet
  > >> > <mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > confuse as says
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  > > Thanks.
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  > >
  > >
  > > Kevin Doucet
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  > >
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