Carl, don't give up on the plunger quite so soon.  Once at work I needed about 
10 minutes of slow methodical plunging to how should I put it, break up a jam.  
The next step if this fails is something like a snake and things get harder 
from there.  
Ron
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: carl 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:05 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] toilett


  the plundger is'nt shifting it what els is thair we can do?

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