I am agreeing with what you said here Don about olooping around and 
always  on those  first few runs leave as don said that extra  about 6 
inches so you have enough to tie off  as you finish. Most important  is 
to find a safe place fo the unused cane as you would hate to get half 
way thru  a weave and find a broken or split piece of cane. I think it 
was Keven wwho started this whole thread and for those who want to go 
further tehre might even bee a yahoo or other grou0p of current caners. 
. I will not  short change  the work as it can get to you from time to 
time but    you can also stop a project as you want and  finish later. 
ther reward is a completed piece of work  which can  bring in the bacon 
, so to speak. My first project was a childs rocker. Lee


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Fri, Nov 14, 
2008 at 11:38:04PM -0600, Don wrote:
> Hi Lenny, and list,  Their again, the is more than one way, to do the tying 
> are looping.  I put  the end of the cane through the  hole, and leave  6 
> inches are so hanging down under the chair.  Then I put a peg in the hole, to 
> hold it tight. then when I get back to that whole, with again, I bring the 
> next piece down through that hole, and back up through the next hole, and 
> either tie are just loop the loose end through the loop a couple of times 
> under the chair, and in between the holes. , pull it up tight, and wait to 
> dry.  cut off the extra piece of cane  hanging out.   I use a small pair of 
> wire cutters, to do this.   when you buy a hank of cane, the cane is pre cut 
> in to different lengths.  I never have measured one, I would say between  12, 
> and 16 feet long, for the different strands of cane.
> Some one else, may have a different way to tie.  Doing my loop tie, I haven't 
> heard of one coming loose yet, but who really know's.  I guess it depends on 
> how many kitty cats work out on the chair seat.  If you have a cat in the 
> house, they just love chair caning, they  love to be in the middle, of your 
> work.   Talk later.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Lenny McHugh 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:39 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] caning and repairing chairs
> 
> 
>   Hi Don and Lee,
>   Now you guys really got my curiosity. I pictured struggling with a 250 
>   length of the material that you had to pull through each hole. It has been 
>   years since I saw a caned chair but always thought that there was only one 
>   long strand woven. If a lot of short strands are used how do you keep them 
>   from pulling back out of the holes?
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: <[email protected]>
>   Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:49 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] caning and repairing chairs
> 
>   Yep, Lea, rolling up the strands of cane, close pinning, them and soaking 
>   in water, I have done a few, my self. I had a clean new large mop 
>   bucket that I soaked the cane in. I would soak the amount I figured I would 
>   use that day.
>   I have never tried the plastic cane. I would think it would be really 
>   different working with, since it would not shrink.
>   I all so did some rush weave caning with the paper cane.
>   Talk later. Don
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Lee A. Stone
>   To: [email protected]
>   Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:52 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] caning and repairing chairs
> 
>   Don, as Mom cut and measured the strands for each chair my bother Geno
>   and I would roll the wooden cane and then clip with a clothespin and
>   put to soak in the bathroom sink. However in the early spring that
>   water would turn near brownish red with copper the we would melt snow
>   to soak the strands in. Let me also add if you evr have a chance to
>   work with plastic cane. it is beautiful w to work with but you should
>   tell your customer there is no guarntee. plastic wil lsplit and crack
>   much easier than regular cane . plastic is apparently eaiser to rip
>   should someone sit for instance with a truckers wallet that had a chain
>   hooked to it and other things. . so again plastic cane is beautiful 5to
>   look at and to work with but if you want a customer to return then tell
>   them up front. thanks.Lee
> 
>   On
>   Fri, Nov
>   14, 2008 at
>   04:40:41PM -0600, Don wrote:
>   > Wow Lea, that's pretty amazing your Mother doing some chair caning. It 
>   would have really been tuff back then, with the little it paid, expectly 
> for 
>   the hours she would have put in to it. That's the thing about caning, it is 
>   really time consuming. Great story. Don
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: Lee A. Stone
>   > To: [email protected]
>   > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:53 AM
>   > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] caning and repairing chairs
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > believe it or not, ask a local Sscouting group. 4 H group. if there
>   > is someone teaching this old profession. You see as long as folks
>   > collect old furnature and as long as most folks are to busy to do
>   > this chorse at times then the work will be there. Our mothr helped
>   > raise 8 kids on the money she made doing chairs and seats as well as
>   > sewing. that is another craft. being a seamstress which is fading
>   > away. Lee
>   >
>   > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at
>   > 09:22:50AM
>   > -0500, NLG wrote:
>   > > Where is a good place to learn the art of caneing? I see some basic 
>   instruction in my cursory search on the subject but didn't completely 
>   understand it. For instance, after you run the cane from front to back, 
> when 
>   running the cane from side to side does it go over all the ones running 
>   front to back or do you weave it over and under? Any titles of recorded 
>   books, internet web sites, or pod casts would be appreciated.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: Lee A. Stone
>   > > To: Blind Handyman
>   > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 08:55
>   > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] caning and repairing chairs
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Kevin just said he is getting $1.00 per hole and when we first started
>   > > in the late 50's we were at 15 cents a hole and when I left home in 66
>   > > Mom was getting 26 cents a hole. The point I would like to make if one
>   > > has the ability to use your hands and think. you might not get rich 
>   but
>   > > you could make some money not only caneing but repairing older
>   > > furniture. You might need some sighted help to scout out and find some
>   > > deals on chairs of different kinds but the money is out there as is
>   > > the ability to apply the skills as a blind handyman or handywoman.
>   > > Then you toss in some learned skills at your ability to haggle on 
>   price
>   > > and work that you would be willing to take in. Lee
>   > >
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