Hi Dan,

Apparently the most important sound proofing is to eliminate air spaces. Sound 
travels through even small penetrations. Oddly then, dust proofing is already 
an important sound proofing function.

There are special glass fiber and other insulations which improve on the more 
general heat insulation characteristics of the usual pink insulation.

You would need studs at 8 inch centers if you offset them, you could probably 
get away with drywall on 24 inch centers I suppose but it would be inconvenient 
if ever you want to hang anything on them. You might like to hang 3/4ths 
plywood then thin sheet rock over that on the shop side at least where you can 
then mount anything anywhere by running screws through the thin drywall veneer 
and into the plywood. The extra density would also help to kill noise.

Now I would consider some sort of strip rubber or even a rubber like membrane 
across the studs before applying the wall sheeting. This would isolate the 
panels from the timber except for the attaching screws. You save two inches and 
you build in the sound damping. If you form it around the back of electrical 
boxes you will also stop up any holes for sound to penetrate through.

Failing a membrane and I don't know where you would get something suitable, you 
can get rolls of that poly foam. You would usually use it on the underside of 
the 2 by 4 you lay on the floor and along the one at the wall to form a good 
seal, you might like to double it and get it wide enough to run up the edges of 
those boards. The edge of each stud would be covered. I would also consider 
stretching a layer of that 6 mil poly vapour barrier. Though a little more 
expensive, in this case I would consider the heavier stuff which is also UV 
rated for exterior use, it is a lot easier to handle. Staple this to the stud 
wall, bring it up over the ceiling, then fold up the poly foam over the vapour 
barrier and add strips to the studs then apply the plywood and the drywall if 
drywall is what you want. A thin layer of drywall does provide a good surface 
for paint and is easily repaired when necessary. Treat the ceiling as you like 
but again, if foam isolates the ceiling material from the strapping holding it 
up you shouldn't get a lot of sound transmission and if air isolated there 
isn't a passage for sound to leak. The electrical box in the ceiling and switch 
boxes and plug boxes should be air tight too, there are now those plastic ones 
which are essentially sealed. You could use something like faucet washers 
between the ceiling strapping and the under side of the floor joists as well to 
further isolate them.

For rigidity and to make erection easier you should run a cross member between 
the floor joists to fix the top of the wall. Now apparently the correct way to 
do this is to construct the wall a little short of the fixing struts, drill 
holes up through the top plate of the wall then spike or bolt up through the 
hole, across the space and into the support struts so that there is a bit of 
room for vertical movement. Apparently in some situations movement of the 
building up and down can cause problems when the building settles down on a 
wall which does not compress. I should say here that I have never actually seen 
it done this way personally but that is how it is recommended. In your case 
this would provide you a rigid wall and a pretty decent measure of sound 
isolation at the same time

Now as I remember you have a steeply sloped floor and sometimes some water 
issues. You might consider fixing the bottom plate through enough thickness of 
something like extruded Styrofoam which could more easily be shaped to the 
contours of the floor with a good rasp or even a belt sander. Though a little 
compressible, with the weight spread out like that it would be relatively easy 
to turn an uneven floor into a nice flat surface.

Your door should be a good fitting one and consider weather stripping it 
against noise.

After all that you may wish to introduce some deliberate ventilation. The room 
will be quiet though.

Hope this gives you a few new ideas.

Dale leavens.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:34 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Noise reduction.


  So, in the fantasy world in which I live, one of my projects is to wall 
  off one end of my basement to make a shop where I can go and make dust and 
  noise without getting dust and noise all over the rest of the basement and 
  house. I realize I won't make a sound proof room, but I would like to 
  take some steps to reduce the amount of noise that will bleed out of the 
  shop area.

  Here are some of my thoughts, any corrections, additions, or ridicules 
  will be accepted.

  The wall will have a footer and header that are 2X6 instead of 2X4. Then 
  there will be studs staggard two one edge or the other. Thus, there will 
  be no stud that reaches from edge to edge, so no bridging. The cavity 
  will be filled with fiberglass insulation. The dry wall on the shop side 
  will be mounted to Z bars instead of directly to the studs.

  Lots of fiberglass will be stuffed up into the joist bays overhead and 
  then acoustic tile as a ceiling.

  One major question I have is dot dot dot.

  The wall runs parallel to the joists, so should I run the top of the wall 
  up between two joists, but not fix it to joists or floor and then stuff 
  lots of fiber glass around the top edge, or do I absolutely have to fix 
  the top of the wall to something. Obviously, there is a rigidity issue if 
  I don't. The ends of the wall can be fixed to the cement walls of the 
  basement, if that is enough of a substitute.

  Most of the sound will be high frequency sounds so doesn't fiber glass 
  batting and sealing up cracks take care of most of that sound?

  Without trying to make a sound proof room, are there any other things I 
  could do to reduce the sound bleed?

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: [email protected]
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


   

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