Hey thanks. Maybe if I were smart, I'd go the extra step and just  
replace stuff with CPVC or PEX and be done with it. grin Great Info, I  
did not realize what was soldered together could be unsoldered. Just  
really never gave it a lot of thought, but I'd surely have to practice  
soldering before I would want to get into this. I wouldn't want to  
screw up the job and have pin leaks. grin I guess that coudl be fixed  
as well.
On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:41 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote:

> Don't cut it out. It's only going to be connected 1 of 2 ways,  
> either threaded or soldered. If it's threaded that can sometimes be  
> a bigger problem to get loose than soldered or sweated fittings.
>
> If the pipes are copper, it will most likely be soldered together.  
> You'll have to turn off the water to that point, open up a tap  
> somewhere to let the pressure off and then heat the sides with a  
> torch. It's probably best to go back and forth across the shut off,  
> or waste gate, to heat both sides together. Much easier since it's  
> coming apart.  Just heat until you can grab the stem with a wet rag  
> or glove or even a small pipe wrench and make it twist. I say small  
> pipe wrench so you don't put a ton of torque on it to break it  
> loose. You can twist the copper pipes easier than the shut off and  
> then you have a whole new problem.
>
> Once the shut off breaks loose, it gets tricky. You have to get it  
> moving and work it loose from the pipe. Once one end comes out, just  
> keep going back and forth to take it off the other pipe.
> I'd say just reverse that to install the new one but there's a bit  
> more to it than twisting and heating. See past articles on how to  
> solder copper pipes.
>
> If the shut off is threaded, you will need to find a connection in  
> the line, away from the shut off itself. It will probably look like  
> a large nut on the pipe you can't explain... Break that connection  
> loose first then you'll be able to back the shut off apart from the  
> other pipe leading to the water heater.
>
> Just take your time and plan on a bit of a mess before you start.  
> That way there won't be that oh crap feeling when water starts  
> running everywhere.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Howell
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Bathroom Shut-off valves
>
> Hey I got a question and it may seem to be a silly question, but well
> I'm going to ask. I have a couple of gate valves in the house that
> have gotten so they no longer function. I might be able to get them
> working, but it is not worth it since they are quite old and likely
> will just leak when shut off. So, I am thinking about replacing them
> and the question is they are in the middle of a pipe. An example is
> the shut off for the waterheater. Cutting it off would not be a
> problem, but just for the discussion, lets say the body of the valve
> is 2 inches long. So, you cut this out and now you have a two inch gap
> and you will replace the old valve with a new one. If this new valve
> body was two inches long, you would be a little pressed for having
> room to reconnect either side of the pipes to the valve. Now I hope
> that isn't confusing and that might seem like a silly question, but
> how do you make the two halves meet?
>
> tnx
>
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