Or, you could use one of those grill lighters.  That would also keep 
your hand away from the flame.

earlier, Bob Kennedy, wrote:

>The one with a trigger has a pizzo crystal that makes a spark to 
>ignite the fuel. Propane is the gas to stay with for plumbing.
>There is map gas but it's hotter and getting the heat right with 
>solder and not melting it instantly is tougher with map gas.
>
>I have a couple different torches that have accumulated over the 
>years. I have one of the igniting kind, you pop the trigger until 
>the flame starts and then leave it alone. Sometimes I think it's 
>more bother than it's worth.
>
>I have a simple torch that you screw into the top of a "bottle" of 
>propane too. On that one you open the valve and as the gas comes out 
>just light it. You can use a match or lighter, but I have a sparker 
>that I use. It keeps my hands far enough from the flame that I don't worry.
>
>The sparker is available anywhere that would sell a torch. There is 
>what looks like bolt threads inside a small cup. On one side of the 
>handle is a spring loaded lever that has a flint on the end. You 
>squeeze the handle and it moves the fling back and forth across the 
>threads and causes a spark. A couple of those and the torch will 
>fire up. Torches run anywhere from around $10 on up to around $30. 
>Both come with a bottle of propane, it just depends on what your 
>local stores are selling them for. I've found them in Lowes and they 
>had a different price depending on the department they were in. 
>Couldn't figure that one out, so I just bought the less expensive one.
>
>I've never tried melting solder with a heat gun. I doubt it gets hot 
>enough to melt the solder and let it run going back together. The 
>fan would probably keep it too cool. It might however get hot enough 
>to sweat it apart. I've used mine to take golf clubs apart so it 
>gets hot enough to melt epoxy. But I think that's around 400 degrees 
>and solder from what I remember takes about 600 or so. I'm sure 
>someone will have the exact temp to melt with...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott Howell
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
>Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Bathroom Shut-off valves
>
>Yeah, that would be more my concern is burning myself or the damned
>house down. grin Actually I probably would do ok, but I need to get a
>torch first. Actually and I'm sure someone has covered this at some
>point, but what is a good torch that would get the job done? I know
>they have some that fire by trigger, but can't recall if you hold that
>trigger or what and the type of gas I should be using. Also,
>On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Bob Kennedy wrote:
>
> > It's a bit harder putting it back in with solder, but getting it out
> > is nothing. You do have to be careful if you're using a torch
> > because there is a flame that can start fires. I have a cookie
> > sheet, an aluminum baking pan that I use to deflect heat and flames.
> > Haven't lost a house yet due to a torch. Wood stoves are another
> > area I don't want to talk about...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Howell
> > To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Bathroom Shut-off valves
> >
> > Well I have to agree and first how can anyone say there is a
> > difference. If you think about it, most valves under a sink (at least
> > in my experience) have been of the compression type. WHen I lived in
> > my townhouse, I had to replace a number of valves. I could not really
> > cut these back because there would have been nearly no pipe to put a
> > new valve on. So, I just simply kept the nut on the backside and just
> > slapped a new valve on. I have never had one leak that was not
> > directly do to me not tightening it up enough. I guess it just seems
> > tricky to heat a pipe enough to loosen the solder, that seems tricky.
> >
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