Hello Scott, I have worked on many of those cars.  It isn't that expensive to 
fix the problem, and the car is still worth keeping.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep





  Hey ROn, provided I don't have to mess with the oil sending unit, that 
  would be great. If so, I'm going to have to take it somewhere with a 
  lift. To get at it, you'd need to jack it up such that you could 
  nearly stand under the thing. That sucker is up above the oil filter 
  and in such a way that reaching it you might be able to feel the 
  connector, but you sure aren't going to reach it and touch the unit 
  itself and forget putting a tool on it. You can feel the connector, 
  but you can't get your hands on it to remove it. Yep, a lift is in 
  order for this job, unless I can get telescoping arms, which I've 
  wanted for years.

  On Jun 4, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Ron Yearns wrote:

  >
  >
  > It has been a few years since I priced aftermarket gages, but it 
  > seems like A pressure onlym, actually runs a small hose to read the 
  > pressure direct was a little over $20. Plus my time and effort.
  > Ron
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Scott Howell
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:12 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep
  >
  > Thanks Ron and I guess it will come down to if I want to trade/sell
  > the thing or just keep it until something significant failes that is
  > more than X amount of its value. I haven't quite decided where that X
  > is, but if I used the insurance companies figures, anything that is
  > totaled to the point it would cost 70% of Blue Book value, it's
  > written off as a loss. Not so sure I'd be willing to go that far, but
  > seeing these retail at or around $9,000 or trade-in for perfect is
  > $5,200 give or take, I probably wouldn't put much more than $1,000
  > into it unless I knew I would get a good number of years out of it.
  > HOwever, the cost of fuel is seeming to go back up and thus the value
  > will drop in relation to the fuel cost cause you can bet this old gal
  > ain't very efficient.
  >
  > On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Ron Yearns wrote:
  >
  > >
  > >
  > > First observation I would consider it could be the gage or the
  > > wiring either to the gage or from the gage to the sender unit.
  > > Probably the easiest in terms of time /expense is using a after
  > > market add on gage. Note this may require access to and replacement
  > > to the sender unit, but still less work than pulling the dash.
  > > Ron
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Scott Howell
  > > To: [email protected]
  > > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:10 AM
  > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep
  > >
  > > I realize this isn't the Blind Mechanics list, but I imagine this
  > > would still be alright.
  > > Here is my problem and feel free to contact me off list if
  > > appropriate. I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, so this is 
  > the
  > > model with the 4.7 V8.
  > > My problem is there seems to be a short somewhere in the circuit 
  > that
  > > controls the oil pressure sensor. I recently had the oil pressure
  > > sending unit replaced by a local garage because I could not get at 
  > it
  > > without a lift. So, the mechanic replaced the part I supplied and it
  > > has been fine for a couple of months. Suddenly the damn oil gage has
  > > been doing exactly the same thing it was initially in that it 
  > drops to
  > > zero randomly sounding the alarm. I'm very certain after talking to
  > > the same mechanic that if it were the oil pump or barings failing,
  > > there would likely be other indications and considering we can go
  > > several miles before the gauge drops to zero, it is quite possible
  > > there is an issue with the connection or a short somewhere. So,
  > > chasing shorts could be a really ugly task and I'm just looking for
  > > any guidance on where I might be looking for possible issues. I
  > > imagine it could be the gauge itself, but man replacing that would 
  > be
  > > a task I am not sure I'd want to take on. I have no idea how to 
  > get to
  > > the gauges, which would involve pulling the dash apart and that 
  > could
  > > be rather complicated and expensive. At this point I just want to do
  > > the least possible to fix the thing and then get rid of the vehicle.
  > > It seems to be more a pain these days and perhaps it is time to
  > > replace it. That or I'll just ignore the problem until something
  > > really brakes and then just donate the damned thing and buy 
  > something
  > > new. As it is I don't think I'm going to get a dealer to agree it
  > > isn't a big deal and gee offer me top dollar on this beast. grin. 
  > Any
  > > thoughts appreciated.
  > >
  > > tnx,
  > >
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