You can't get under the exhaust manifolds in that car.  The only pressure 
wholes available are gotten to from under the car.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep





  If you're going to run an after market oil gauge you don't have to get under 
it. There are little plugs around the engine that will tap into the oil 
galleys. There is probably one near the filter, but there will be a few on top 
as well. 

  To keep you out of trouble, an oil plug will be quite small. Unlike a water 
plug that has around a half inch square head and looks like a normal pipe plug. 
The ones for oil won't take much more than a quarter inch wrench to back out. 

  The new gauge should come with a compression fitting, the ferrules and the 
plastic line to run the new gauge. If you want to pay a bit more, you can get 
the electronic version and still mount it from the top. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep

  Hey ROn, provided I don't have to mess with the oil sending unit, that 
  would be great. If so, I'm going to have to take it somewhere with a 
  lift. To get at it, you'd need to jack it up such that you could 
  nearly stand under the thing. That sucker is up above the oil filter 
  and in such a way that reaching it you might be able to feel the 
  connector, but you sure aren't going to reach it and touch the unit 
  itself and forget putting a tool on it. You can feel the connector, 
  but you can't get your hands on it to remove it. Yep, a lift is in 
  order for this job, unless I can get telescoping arms, which I've 
  wanted for years.

  On Jun 4, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Ron Yearns wrote:

  >
  >
  > It has been a few years since I priced aftermarket gages, but it 
  > seems like A pressure onlym, actually runs a small hose to read the 
  > pressure direct was a little over $20. Plus my time and effort.
  > Ron
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Scott Howell
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:12 AM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep
  >
  > Thanks Ron and I guess it will come down to if I want to trade/sell
  > the thing or just keep it until something significant failes that is
  > more than X amount of its value. I haven't quite decided where that X
  > is, but if I used the insurance companies figures, anything that is
  > totaled to the point it would cost 70% of Blue Book value, it's
  > written off as a loss. Not so sure I'd be willing to go that far, but
  > seeing these retail at or around $9,000 or trade-in for perfect is
  > $5,200 give or take, I probably wouldn't put much more than $1,000
  > into it unless I knew I would get a good number of years out of it.
  > HOwever, the cost of fuel is seeming to go back up and thus the value
  > will drop in relation to the fuel cost cause you can bet this old gal
  > ain't very efficient.
  >
  > On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Ron Yearns wrote:
  >
  > >
  > >
  > > First observation I would consider it could be the gage or the
  > > wiring either to the gage or from the gage to the sender unit.
  > > Probably the easiest in terms of time /expense is using a after
  > > market add on gage. Note this may require access to and replacement
  > > to the sender unit, but still less work than pulling the dash.
  > > Ron
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: Scott Howell
  > > To: [email protected]
  > > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:10 AM
  > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] grounding issue in a Jeep
  > >
  > > I realize this isn't the Blind Mechanics list, but I imagine this
  > > would still be alright.
  > > Here is my problem and feel free to contact me off list if
  > > appropriate. I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, so this is 
  > the
  > > model with the 4.7 V8.
  > > My problem is there seems to be a short somewhere in the circuit 
  > that
  > > controls the oil pressure sensor. I recently had the oil pressure
  > > sending unit replaced by a local garage because I could not get at 
  > it
  > > without a lift. So, the mechanic replaced the part I supplied and it
  > > has been fine for a couple of months. Suddenly the damn oil gage has
  > > been doing exactly the same thing it was initially in that it 
  > drops to
  > > zero randomly sounding the alarm. I'm very certain after talking to
  > > the same mechanic that if it were the oil pump or barings failing,
  > > there would likely be other indications and considering we can go
  > > several miles before the gauge drops to zero, it is quite possible
  > > there is an issue with the connection or a short somewhere. So,
  > > chasing shorts could be a really ugly task and I'm just looking for
  > > any guidance on where I might be looking for possible issues. I
  > > imagine it could be the gauge itself, but man replacing that would 
  > be
  > > a task I am not sure I'd want to take on. I have no idea how to 
  > get to
  > > the gauges, which would involve pulling the dash apart and that 
  > could
  > > be rather complicated and expensive. At this point I just want to do
  > > the least possible to fix the thing and then get rid of the vehicle.
  > > It seems to be more a pain these days and perhaps it is time to
  > > replace it. That or I'll just ignore the problem until something
  > > really brakes and then just donate the damned thing and buy 
  > something
  > > new. As it is I don't think I'm going to get a dealer to agree it
  > > isn't a big deal and gee offer me top dollar on this beast. grin. 
  > Any
  > > thoughts appreciated.
  > >
  > > tnx,
  > >
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