True and I think I'll snake it. I can't recall if I had tried this yet  
since we have been here a long time and the problem although not new,  
is not always a problem, it just finally has reached a point that it  
is now an issue in need of addressing.

tnx
On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Trouble wrote:

>
>
> There could be something in the trap from past owners, and sounds
> like the tank flapper may need replaced.
> i wouldn't trash the whole thing yet. unbolting it from the floor
> will give you a idea of the trap. Run a snake down through it and see
> if it hits anything. if that is all cleaned out the only thing your
> out is a wax ring to reseal. The flapper is also a cheap fix.
>
> At 06:18 AM 7/6/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Ok, now there's a subject line that grabbed your attention. <smily>
> >Here's the deal and no it isn't a crisis as far as an emergency, but
> >it will eventually have a greater affect on my water usage, which of
> >course affects the bill. Let me see if I can explain the problem as
> >concisely as best I can.
> >This is a name-brand ttwelet, which doesn't matter perhaps, but just
> >want to point out that this isn't the super cheap model and this was
> >installed by a previous owner. WIth all that said here is what the
> >issue is.
> >It seems to take sometimes two or three flushes to get all the
> >contents down the line as it were. It never fills to a point where it
> >will overflow, but what seems to happen is as the contents go down  
> the
> >drain, you don't get the normal sound a twelet makes at the end of  
> the
> >flush cycle. It doesn't do anything and a repeated flush will
> >eventually produce that sound of successful flush cycle. In addition,
> >once the twelet fills, and the valve closes, it sounds as though  
> water
> >is running out of the twelet. To further explain this point, it is as
> >though once it stops filling, water is leaking internally out of the
> >bowl as though water is leaving the trap. THe closest sound that  
> might
> >help make this point is when a tworlet is clogged, fills, and you  
> hear
> >water trickling through the trap, it is sort of like that sound. Now
> >to further carry this point, if I poor water into the bowl, I can
> >cause the same sound and what I have been told is that it is possible
> >there is a defect in the trap. THis defect could actually be causing
> >two issues. One the sound of the water flowing through the trap that
> >normally would be very hard to hear is easier to hear because of the
> >defect and this defect could also cause contents to have difficulty
> >moving through the trap. SO, I guess my question is does that make
> >sense? Sounds reasonable, but I'd like to get some other opinions
> >before I go out and replace this thing. I would not consider  
> replacing
> >it since there is nothing wrong with it, but the fact that at times  
> it
> >takes two to three flushes for proper operation, it will in time
> >become an expense. Any thoughts appreciated.
> >
> >
>
> Tim
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