never heard of carbon cement and will be anxious to read comments on 
same. also tell me about using the J B Weld. is that like a toothpaste 
 consistancy ? a job well done. maybe your neighbor is going to a 
program? Lee

 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:17:28AM -0400, 
Spiro 
wrote:
> Hi,
> I just wanted to give the story of the completion of the clothes line pole 
> project.
> If you remember, a rather "pickled" neighbor downed my clothes line pole. 
> It seems that sun is faster and cheaper than gas heated appliances and it 
> was a priority.
> Well stability was the issue and I didn't want the next occurance to be 
> unnoticed at the auto body shop.
> So here's what we got at Home Depot.
> 
> What we needed:
> 1 ft section 2-3/8 galvanized pipe
> 1 2-1/4 ft of same.
> 1 40 inch section of 2-1/4 o.D. galvanized pipe
> 1 2ft section of 1-3/4 O.D. galvanized nipple
> 1 bracket to hold horizontal member
> 1 2ft 1 inch O.D. E.C.T.
> 1 8ft (true) 1 inch X3 pressure treated board (rounded edges)
> 1 unit of carbon added cement
> 2 standard quick set cement
> 1 can of cement colored, textured outdoor 
> spray paint
> 2 chain link fence bolt through caps
> 4 2.5 inch tapscrews
> 2 2 inch stainless flair head wood screws
> 2 1/4 inch wood threaded screws 3 inch long
> 
> since the guy at HD told me I could buy by the foot, I was surprised when 
> he said his machine wouldn't cut the stock we chose.
> So with hacksaws going, and my using my "passed" father in laws huge pipe 
> cutter, we got everything down to size
> I remed and deburred all the pipes for smooth fit.
> 
> We used a hammer drill with masonry chisel to make a 8X8 inch wide hole 
> and dug the cement and old pipe out. We dug a 16 inch hole. We banged 
> the  2ft pipe in to level.
> We sunk the 2ft of 2-3/8 into the ground and filled it to the 14 inch or 
> 10 inch from the top, with cement.
> We filled the hole around the pipe with this Carbon Added cement.
> carbon  supposed to be stronger ? ?
>   that surrounded that pipe to an inch from level. (I hope this carbon 
> additive  cement isn't snake oil).
> We filled the 40 inch 2-1/4 inch  pipe with quick cement to the 30 inch 
> mark.
> We put the 2-1/4 ft piece of 2-3/8 I.D around that 
> 40 inch 2-1/4 pipe and used JB Weld to hold it at the 10 inch mark and up 
> from there.
> While that cured we sprayed the front of 2   3x5 inch pieces of the 
> treated wood after drilling for the tapscrews.
> While that dried, we drilled the 30 inch header board for the close line 
> hooks. We removed those and sprayed the wood front.
> We assembled the clamps that would hold the 1 inchcross piece to the 
> clothes line pole, drilling through the pole in a vice, through the 
> front and back hole to make them allign. We set the bolt through and 
> tightened it for fit.
> We set the "caps"  onto the 1 inch pipe with more JB 
> weld.
> We used the JB Weld to affix the 2ft piece of 1-5/8 I.D. ECT to the bottom 
> 2feet of the clothes line pole.
> We broke for lunch.
> 
> We sprayed the backs of the 3x5 inch blocks and set the screws and 
> tightened them to the wall wet.
> We sprayed the fronts of the blocks.
> the ground cement was getting dry, and the stuff in the socket was as 
> well.
> We sprayed the back of the header board and set it wet to the blocks and 
> screwed it onto the blocks. We sprayed it all over again.
> We set the 1 inch E.C.T. (electrical conduit tubing, I've heard called 
> Electrical metal tubing) into the clamp and sealed around the openings 
> with a bead of JB weld.
> We put the line hooks into the header.
> We swept up with the cement in the above ground pipes still curing.
> We put an inch of quick set over the carbon added cement and let my kid 
> put her hand print and initial into it.
> We fitted the pieces.
> 
> 2-3/8 i.d. in the ground, filled with cement.
> 2-1/4 o.d rises 30 inches above ground, is filled with 30 inches of 
> cement, and has outside sleeve of 2-3/8 galvanized epoxied to that..
> 1-3/4 o.d. pipe has 1-1/2  o.d. clothes pole in that and slips into the 40 
> inch cement filled galvanized pipe.
> 2 bolt through caps on 2 ft horizontal 1 inch pipe hold lines with hooks 
> on headers at other end.
> 
> The blocks where to put the header across lines that run up the wall, the 
> single line had been previously tied to the fittings on the electrical 
> service box.
> 
> So, it's cement and 1/4 wall thick to the height of a dodge Ram 2500 pick 
> up's bumper and totally quick to break down.
> 
> Today, i find out that the "pickled" party who has damaged (now 4) fences 
> in the neighborhood, as well as my clothes pole; is moving away.
> well, maybe I can put a hoop and back board on the other side to make it 
> all worth it. (grins)
> anyone know anything about carbon cement?
> 

-- 
Force it!!!
If it breaks, well, it wasn't working anyway...
No, don't force it, get a bigger hammer.
.

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