I don't know if banding would be stout enough for an old heavy house.  Since 
steel is stronger and thinner, I'd be tempted to use some kind of I beam with 
screw jacks.  That would take the bounce out of the floors.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:41 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] stiffening inadequate floor joists?


    Hi,

  It is too wet outside to do any work and I am contemplating a problem I have 
had since moving into this old building.

  The original house has floor joists rough sawn but only 2 by 8 on 24 inch 
centers. We have a springy and uneven floor. Some of it is also because at some 
point one of the heating systems required framing in a big cold air return and 
they clearly didn't shore up the floor when cutting that joist, someone long 
since removed all of the cross bracing.

  I don't see sistering or adding joists in the usual way because of plumbing, 
wiring and duct work and I don't want to add more posts and beams. It recently 
struck me though that I could build in place an open web joist, jack things 
temporarily up then fix the lower cord. This lead me to think perhaps a better 
way might be to jack tings up just a little above the desired point then apply 
a web of strap steel to either face of the existing joists on the diagonal. A 
series of 'V's so that the diagonal essentially forms triangles. This would 
allow me to continue to respect wiring.

  More stiffening might be achieved by running a length of angle iron along the 
top inside corner against the floor and the joist and run a bolt through it and 
the straps and similarly at the bottom of the joist, I wonder how much would be 
enough and how much too much. At some point it might be better to fabricate 
individual steel webbed joists and fit them between the originals but then they 
may serve the purpose of lifting the originals which would continue to be 
pulling down after nearly a century.

  Just kicking around ideas. I would like to preserve as much open space there 
as I can.

  I don't have reasonable access to engineering or architectural services.

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