Hey Bill. Yess I remember the different sizes loads. I had one in the 70s And I believe the brand was HiltI.
Jaws doesn't want to pronounce it right so let me try again it was a Hilty brand. The differend loads had different collors, one was black, one was blue, I think and one was red, I think,but they were the same physical size back then, just packed more of a load. This was the kind that you would load the bullet, so to speak, then the nail , which varied in length then it it with a hammer and Boom!,,,,,s From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block Just to add to what Tom's saying here, remember these power hammers, or stud drivers, are available in .22 short, .22 long, and .22 long rifle. There's a big difference in performance between .22 short and .22 long rifle. Also, they can, for really heavy work, be found in higher calibers, .32 for sure, and maybe some others as well. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: [email protected] <mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.net> Phone: (816)803-2469 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hodges <[email protected] <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:03 am Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block > I think we're running a few different subjects together here. Let > me try to > explain. > > > > First, someone is mixing up an auto hammer with a concrete nail > gun. I > really don't know the correct name for the concrete nailer but > what they > were talking about here was a device that held a 22 caliber blank, > whichdrives a special nail into concrete. They are available in a > model which > you hit with a hammer and also one with a trigger. > > > > Next, there is an Auto hammer, by Craftsman and one by Ryobi. It > is a > rechargeable tool with a 12 volt battery. You place the head of > the nail up > to the magnetized head on the hammer, then hold it pushing the > nail against > the wood and it automatically hammers it as long as long as you hold > pressure against it. I tried this thing at Sears and was not very > impressed. It's supposed to drive up to a size 16 D nail but it > sure had to > strain to do it. If you hit a knot in the wood, forget it. > > > > I talked to an out of work carpenter, working at Sears and he said the > Pneumatic palm nailer was much more powerful and usually cost less > than the > electric auto hammer. > > > > Neither of these two nailers are suitable for nailing into > concrete, I don't > think, but, Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong about > using the > palm nailer for concrete nailer, since I don't have experience > with it. > > > > > > The next thing that was brought was using Tapcon screws with a > predrilledhole, instead of any kind of a nailer. > > > > Hope this clears up some of the confusion. > > > > Regards, Tom H. > > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Alan & Terrie > RobbinsSent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:08 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel > Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block > > > > > > Tom > > Just to clarify, does one need to pre drill a hole in the concrete > prior to > using these tapcon screws or just use the auto hammer? My thinking > uponreading all the posts on these, was one drilled a hole and > then used a drill > with a Phillips or square bit (depending on the screw head) and > put the > screw in? > > al > > Al > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:48 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel > Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block > > Lenny, I don't know the name of the special bit because I don't > have the > package anymore. I have never used a plain Phillips bit or a > square bit, I > have only used the combination bit and it works better than any > screw I've > ever used. It isn't for concrete so I wouldn't be using it with a > hammerdrill. > > The bits come in the box of screws, but it is a very short one and > can not > be held by my quick release chuck. But, I buy the longer bit at > Lowes and > they have them hanging on the shelf right next to the boxes of > screws and > they also have them where the rest of the screwdriver bits are sold. > > Regards, Tom H. > > From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:[email protected] m <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:59 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel > Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block > > Tom, The contractor friend that showed them to me uses a hammer > drill. He > told me that it never slips because when it gets tight it will go into > hammer drilling motion. This will put the screw in with no > slipping. Since > I > > have neither I could not test his theory. > As for the screws with both Phillips and square drive, I had two > boxes and > tossed them out. I destroyed a good Phillips screw driver. one of the > sides > was sheared off because there is only a very small portion that makes > contact. Also a square drive bit tended to slip since the square > pocketwas > not deep enough. Where did you locate the combination bit and is > there a > special name for it? > --- > Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and > humorouswith many resources for the blind. > http://www.lennymchugh.com > Lenny > Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line > whenaddressing. > Help stop identity theft. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Hodges" <[email protected] <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> > <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> > > To: <[email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:48 AM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel > Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block > > I have used the Tapcon concrete screws quite often and have one big > problem > with them. The ones with the Phillips head are a problem because > the screw > bit rides up out of the screw when the screw becomes tight in the > predrilled > hole. I believe they would work a lot better if they had a drive > like the > screws I've been buying at Lowes lately. They are not concrete > screws but > they have a Phillips head with a square drive at the tip. In other > words,you can use a Phillips bit, a square bit or for the most > positive contact > is > there is a special bit that comes with screws that has both a > Phillips bit > with a square tip on it. With the special bit, the bit never rides > up out > of the screw. For those who are visually impaired, like me, who can't > always hold the drill exactly perpendicular to the screw, this bit > stillholds. Although these screws are available only in exterior > grade, I use > them exclusively indoors because of the fact that don't allow slippage > with > the bit. > > Regards, Tom H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:58 PM > To: handyman-blind > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel > ConcreteScrews for fastening to concrete, brick and block > > Al, here is a little more information. I did not see the length > choices.Probably somewhere else on the site. > > TapconR concrete screws are ideal for use in concrete, brick or > block base > material. The threads of the Tapcons actually cut threads into the > basematerial - providing excellent holding values. > > The TapconR concrete screw comes in two diameters - 3/16" and > 1/4", and > two > different head styles- hex washer head and flat counter sunk Phillips. > > The bit to use with each size of TapconR are: > > a.. 3/16" diameter TapconR = 5/32" bit > b.. 1/4" diameter TapconR = 3/16" bit > Each TapconR is coated with a Blue ClimasealR coating. This coating > provides > > excellent rust resistance. 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