Hi Spiro, I kept them going on the stove top and they acted like hot water heaters. They did not heat the entire 90 foot long mobile home but the main living area was liveable (nearly). The temps would dip to the teens and one night it fell below 10F. That was truly an awful time which I really do not care to repeat. We kept the water running in all of the faucets so the lines would not freeze and we were very lucky on that count. We had a good 2 inches of ice everywhere outside. For the first several days no one in Tulsa had gasoline for sale because they did not have electricity to run the gas pumps. After 3 or 4 days more and more stations had their generators running but most of the grocery stores were dead in the water.
Wal-Mart did manage to get it together and did business on a limited basis. A lot of Tulsa had electricity within a week but our poor mobile home park was among the last to get power. The blamed recreation park across the street from our park had electricity after 9 or so days but, alas, not us. Once we could get out and get supplies life did get easier but we were sure overjoyed to see the lights come back on. >From what I remember there was probably not more than 1,000 feet of power lines left undamaged in the entire Tulsa metro area. I am glad I live where I do. Interestingly there was a substation explosion in the north central part of Tulsa a couple of months ago and a whole hunk of Tulsa was without power and it took a good 3 or so weeks to get everything back to normal. Folks did have "limited" power but were told not to run their air-conditioners. Nice thing to have happen in the middle of the summer. (LOLLOLLOL) Cy, The anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spiro Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted okay, sometimes I'm stupid; but how did the 5 gallon pots keep you from freezing? On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Cy Selfridge wrote: > Alan, > > I use those candle lighters and they are quite handy. Yup, you occasionally > have to go on a search for them if the War Department has used them. > (LOLLOL) > > The Sears stove I had demanded that the stove have electricity in order to > use the oven but the stove top sure saved our lives. I used a couple of my > very large (5 gallon) pots to hold water and kept it going in order not to > freeze to death. I would have used cooking oil but no stores were open to > seel it. (LOL) > > Gads, that was a miserable experience. When I managed to get the home up to > a balmy 59 degrees we all celebrated. > > Cy, The Anasazi > > > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:31 AM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted > > > > > > I read on the AFB accessibility page pretty much the same information > concerning the default 350 degree temperature and even 450 is only 10 button > > pushes away. > > The stove we saw with the center burner is gas and they make a to do over > cooking on the center large pot burner. And, one of the stoves has the hole > top of the stove 1 big grate but you could still feel the burner mouths > under the grate so you know where to place the pot. > > I'm not worried about the igniter not working. I'm a long time camper and > my stove in the motor home hasn't even got electronic ignition. The way to > deal with that is to buy a grill lighter or candle lighter. Basically, > their both the same except the grill lighter is a little longer and more out > > doorsy looking. The candle lighter looks nicer and is smaller to fit > women's hands better as the packing on one said. Basically, what they both > are is a disposable butane lighter with a long nose. These things remind me > of a rifle in that they have a trigger. They are safe as well. You put > your index finger on a dial that is spring loaded. You must roll it forward > and hold it there wile you squeeze the trigger. Their easy for the blind to > use because you can feel where the tip of the lighter will produce flame > before you shoot. You turn the gas on, wait a second and fire. The lighter > ignites the butaine and your burner ignites. If you haven't got the TV > going full blast or the stereo, you can hear the gas light. They only cost > a couple of bucks and will last a long time. > > I've got a portable Coleman 2 burner propane stove that I keep in the > storage bin outside in the motor home. It uses the 1 pound propane > cylinders. I keep a candle lighter in the bottom of it too. When I set up > the stove on a picnic table, and there it is all ready to go. Very handy > and you may have to go hunting for it if you've got a candle nut for a wife! > > She'll love it. Mine sure does. > > Alan > > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on > the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! > > The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still > available upon request. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfri...@comcast.net <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> > <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> > > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:43 AM > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted > >> Hi Alan, >> >> I have purchased at least one of those gas stoves with the buttons for the >> oven controls. My wife took the stick on bubbles to mark the important >> buttons (buttons? Rather the space where you need to press) and it worked >> out quite nice. >> >> Most gas stoves are set so the oven comes on at 350F when you start and >> pressing the up or down button raises or lowers the temp by 5F. >> >> I also like the cast iron grates for the pots. On the electric stoves that >> fifth burner is only for holding something as it does not get hot enough >> to >> really cook anything. >> >> One thought, if your area is subject to frequent power outages the >> electronic ignition is not all that great an idea. If there is no >> electricity you have no oven - unless - you have an inverter which you can >> plug your stove into then you could have enough electricity to light the >> oven. When we had the great ice storm in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 2007 I sure >> wish >> I have been able to use the oven because it was blamed cold for the two >> weeks we had no power. >> >> Cy, The Anasazi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] >> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli >> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:33 AM >> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted >> >> >> >> >> >> We are looking at new refrigerators as well. Hour's is making sounds I >> don't like and the unit is 24 years old as is. It came with the house so >> it >> wasn't the best model in the line to start with. I've gone around and >> around in my mind over the ice maker question. On one hand it would be >> nice >> to always have ice and cold water. On the other hand, a 2 quart bottle of >> filtered water for coffee making works just as well. I have found out that >> cold water makes better tasting coffee. I've finally decided to skip the >> ice maker and have more freezer space for food. We don't use all that much >> ice and so the occasional 8 pound bag from the corner store works for me. >> >> I went the same rounds several years back over a water filter. Although >> the >> smell of a swimming pool comes out the city water tap, there is no >> evidence >> to suggest it's harmful to drink. That leaves a matter of personal >> preference. I certainly don't want my coffee smelling like the pool. I >> don't care if I shower in it but I don't want to drink it. So. I looked at >> hole house systems. Now your talking money. The filters for such systems >> cost in the hundred dollar range and upward. As I've said, I don't care if >> I shower or wash my hair with the stuff, I'm just not going to drink it. >> We >> wound up buying a Pure Ultimate water filter which attaches to a kitchen >> faucet. Flip the lever up for filtered water or down for city water. The >> filter turns off when it's time to change out the filter cartridge. I buy >> those at Costco and there are 6 filters in the box for $50. If you buy >> them >> 1 at a time, they go for $17 each or about 102 bucks so that's why we do >> Costco. Just because you have an ice maker doesn't mean you have to use >> it. >> >> That brings me around to another topic I'd like to ask about. I like the >> new gas stoves with the caste-iron grates and a big center burner. A great >> place for that huge pot everybody seems to have. The problem is the >> buttons >> and controls. The gas knobs are returning to the front of the stove but >> the >> oven is a touch plate and appears to be totally useless for the blind. I'd >> like to hear about your experiences if you've bought a new gas stove in >> the >> past year or so. >> >> Alan >> >> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! >> >> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still >> available upon request. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmch...@verizon.net <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> > <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> > >> To: "bhm" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM >> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] water filter >> >>> I am thinking about installing a water filter. Although we are on >>> municipal >> >>> water it sometimes is not clear and often has a strong chlorine smell. The >>> new refrigerator that will be delivered tomorrow has a water filter >>> installed. I have been thinking about placing one in the basement under >>> the >> >>> kitchen sink area. then run the lines to the cold water and for the ice >>> maker. Any suggestions on what kind to install. Doing a search there is >>> only about 3 million hits to read. I called some big box stores and they >>> have no real great suggestions. They have sediment filters starting for >>> $35 >> >>> and on the net I found systems for several thousand dollars. >>> --- >>> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational >>> with a touch of humor. 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