Spiro, No, the water vapor was semi miserable but the heat radiated out from that large a container did warm up the main part of the home.
If I had been able to get cooking oil it would have been a whole lot better. Cy, The Anasazi From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spiro Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:08 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted so the heat of the steam made it livable? Hope systems improve so folks don't have to live through that again. On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Cy Selfridge wrote: > Hi Spiro, > > I kept them going on the stove top and they acted like hot water heaters. > They did not heat the entire 90 foot long mobile home but the main living > area was liveable (nearly). The temps would dip to the teens and one night > it fell below 10F. That was truly an awful time which I really do not care > to repeat. We kept the water running in all of the faucets so the lines > would not freeze and we were very lucky on that count. We had a good 2 > inches of ice everywhere outside. For the first several days no one in Tulsa > had gasoline for sale because they did not have electricity to run the gas > pumps. After 3 or 4 days more and more stations had their generators running > but most of the grocery stores were dead in the water. > > Wal-Mart did manage to get it together and did business on a limited basis. > A lot of Tulsa had electricity within a week but our poor mobile home park > was among the last to get power. The blamed recreation park across the > street from our park had electricity after 9 or so days but, alas, not us. > Once we could get out and get supplies life did get easier but we were sure > overjoyed to see the lights come back on. > > From what I remember there was probably not more than 1,000 feet of power > lines left undamaged in the entire Tulsa metro area. > > I am glad I live where I do. > > Interestingly there was a substation explosion in the north central part of > Tulsa a couple of months ago and a whole hunk of Tulsa was without power and > it took a good 3 or so weeks to get everything back to normal. Folks did > have "limited" power but were told not to run their air-conditioners. Nice > thing to have happen in the middle of the summer. (LOLLOLLOL) > > Cy, The anasazi > > From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] > On Behalf Of Spiro > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted > > > > > > okay, sometimes I'm stupid; > but how did the 5 gallon pots keep you from freezing? > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Cy Selfridge wrote: > >> Alan, >> >> I use those candle lighters and they are quite handy. Yup, you > occasionally >> have to go on a search for them if the War Department has used them. >> (LOLLOL) >> >> The Sears stove I had demanded that the stove have electricity in order to >> use the oven but the stove top sure saved our lives. I used a couple of my >> very large (5 gallon) pots to hold water and kept it going in order not to >> freeze to death. I would have used cooking oil but no stores were open to >> seel it. (LOL) >> >> Gads, that was a miserable experience. When I managed to get the home up > to >> a balmy 59 degrees we all celebrated. >> >> Cy, The Anasazi >> >> >> >> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] >> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli >> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:31 AM >> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted >> >> >> >> >> >> I read on the AFB accessibility page pretty much the same information >> concerning the default 350 degree temperature and even 450 is only 10 > button >> >> pushes away. >> >> The stove we saw with the center burner is gas and they make a to do over >> cooking on the center large pot burner. And, one of the stoves has the > hole >> top of the stove 1 big grate but you could still feel the burner mouths >> under the grate so you know where to place the pot. >> >> I'm not worried about the igniter not working. I'm a long time camper and >> my stove in the motor home hasn't even got electronic ignition. The way to >> deal with that is to buy a grill lighter or candle lighter. Basically, >> their both the same except the grill lighter is a little longer and more > out >> >> doorsy looking. The candle lighter looks nicer and is smaller to fit >> women's hands better as the packing on one said. Basically, what they both >> are is a disposable butane lighter with a long nose. These things remind > me >> of a rifle in that they have a trigger. They are safe as well. You put >> your index finger on a dial that is spring loaded. You must roll it > forward >> and hold it there wile you squeeze the trigger. Their easy for the blind > to >> use because you can feel where the tip of the lighter will produce flame >> before you shoot. You turn the gas on, wait a second and fire. The lighter >> ignites the butaine and your burner ignites. If you haven't got the TV >> going full blast or the stereo, you can hear the gas light. They only cost >> a couple of bucks and will last a long time. >> >> I've got a portable Coleman 2 burner propane stove that I keep in the >> storage bin outside in the motor home. It uses the 1 pound propane >> cylinders. I keep a candle lighter in the bottom of it too. When I set up >> the stove on a picnic table, and there it is all ready to go. Very handy >> and you may have to go hunting for it if you've got a candle nut for a > wife! >> >> She'll love it. Mine sure does. >> >> Alan >> >> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! >> >> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still >> available upon request. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfri...@comcast.net <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> > <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> >> <mailto:cyselfridge%40comcast.net> > >> To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:43 AM >> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted >> >>> Hi Alan, >>> >>> I have purchased at least one of those gas stoves with the buttons for > the >>> oven controls. My wife took the stick on bubbles to mark the important >>> buttons (buttons? Rather the space where you need to press) and it worked >>> out quite nice. >>> >>> Most gas stoves are set so the oven comes on at 350F when you start and >>> pressing the up or down button raises or lowers the temp by 5F. >>> >>> I also like the cast iron grates for the pots. On the electric stoves > that >>> fifth burner is only for holding something as it does not get hot enough >>> to >>> really cook anything. >>> >>> One thought, if your area is subject to frequent power outages the >>> electronic ignition is not all that great an idea. If there is no >>> electricity you have no oven - unless - you have an inverter which you > can >>> plug your stove into then you could have enough electricity to light the >>> oven. When we had the great ice storm in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 2007 I sure >>> wish >>> I have been able to use the oven because it was blamed cold for the two >>> weeks we had no power. >>> >>> Cy, The Anasazi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] >>> On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli >>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:33 AM >>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> >>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] water filter and advice wanted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> We are looking at new refrigerators as well. Hour's is making sounds I >>> don't like and the unit is 24 years old as is. It came with the house so >>> it >>> wasn't the best model in the line to start with. I've gone around and >>> around in my mind over the ice maker question. On one hand it would be >>> nice >>> to always have ice and cold water. On the other hand, a 2 quart bottle of >>> filtered water for coffee making works just as well. I have found out > that >>> cold water makes better tasting coffee. I've finally decided to skip the >>> ice maker and have more freezer space for food. We don't use all that > much >>> ice and so the occasional 8 pound bag from the corner store works for me. >>> >>> I went the same rounds several years back over a water filter. Although >>> the >>> smell of a swimming pool comes out the city water tap, there is no >>> evidence >>> to suggest it's harmful to drink. That leaves a matter of personal >>> preference. I certainly don't want my coffee smelling like the pool. I >>> don't care if I shower in it but I don't want to drink it. So. I looked > at >>> hole house systems. Now your talking money. The filters for such systems >>> cost in the hundred dollar range and upward. As I've said, I don't care > if >>> I shower or wash my hair with the stuff, I'm just not going to drink it. >>> We >>> wound up buying a Pure Ultimate water filter which attaches to a kitchen >>> faucet. Flip the lever up for filtered water or down for city water. The >>> filter turns off when it's time to change out the filter cartridge. I buy >>> those at Costco and there are 6 filters in the box for $50. If you buy >>> them >>> 1 at a time, they go for $17 each or about 102 bucks so that's why we do >>> Costco. Just because you have an ice maker doesn't mean you have to use >>> it. >>> >>> That brings me around to another topic I'd like to ask about. I like the >>> new gas stoves with the caste-iron grates and a big center burner. A > great >>> place for that huge pot everybody seems to have. The problem is the >>> buttons >>> and controls. The gas knobs are returning to the front of the stove but >>> the >>> oven is a touch plate and appears to be totally useless for the blind. > I'd >>> like to hear about your experiences if you've bought a new gas stove in >>> the >>> past year or so. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >>> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on >>> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! >>> >>> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still >>> available upon request. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmch...@verizon.net <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> > <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> >> <mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net> > >>> To: "bhm" <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >>> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:30 PM >>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] water filter >>> >>>> I am thinking about installing a water filter. Although we are on >>>> municipal >>> >>>> water it sometimes is not clear and often has a strong chlorine smell. > The >>>> new refrigerator that will be delivered tomorrow has a water filter >>>> installed. I have been thinking about placing one in the basement under >>>> the >>> >>>> kitchen sink area. then run the lines to the cold water and for the ice >>>> maker. Any suggestions on what kind to install. Doing a search there is >>>> only about 3 million hits to read. I called some big box stores and they >>>> have no real great suggestions. They have sediment filters starting for >>>> $35 >>> >>>> and on the net I found systems for several thousand dollars. >>>> --- >>>> Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, > inspirational >>>> with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for >>>> the blind. >>>> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Send any questions regarding list management to: >>>> blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> >> <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> >>> <mailto:blindhandyman-owner%40yahoogroups.com> >>>> To listen to the show archives go to link >>>> http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster >>> <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster >> <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster > <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster <http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_ > &PAGE_user_op=view_ >> &PAGE_user_op=view_ >>> &PAGE_user_op=view_ >>> page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29> >>> &PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=47:29 >>>> Or >>>> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >>>> >>>> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >>>> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >>>> >>>> Visit the archives page at the following address >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ >>>> >>>> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man >>>> list just send a blank message to: >>>> blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> > <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> >> <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> >>> <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.comYahoo> ! 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