Hey Mike, Thanks for the update! I totally understand your timing, and it's on us to blame for missing this out (or at least we thought that it would be together with the cookie update which was postponed several times).
Anyway, I encourage you to postpone the timing until the trial bug will be fixed to enable us, and other developers who would like to use the trial meta tag to be able to do so. Thanks! On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:55:33 PM UTC+3 Mike Taylor wrote: > Thanks for the bug report! We'll triage it in our regular meeting tomorrow. > > And yes, your understanding of the timing is correct (we've been working > on this project for 2+ years > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/WXNzM0WiQ-s/m/l10NGhaoAQAJ>, > > and in dev-trial since September > <https://developer.chrome.com/en/blog/storage-partitioning-dev-trial/> of > last year). Note that advancing to a higher percentage will depend on the > stability and web-compatibility of partitioned 3P storage. > > thanks, > Mike > On 7/30/23 12:04 PM, Tim Williams wrote: > > I've submitted the following bug: > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1468811 since the > trial isn't working while I did everything right. > > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:52:22 AM UTC+3 Tim Williams wrote: > >> Hey There, >> I am truly struggling to understand the timing here. >> Currently, the partitioning is under a flag. >> Are you saying that the flag would be turned on to 100% of Desktop and >> Android users on Sept 8th THIS YEAR?? >> >> That's a huge and extremely fast change, wow. >> >> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:33:01 PM UTC+3 Kyra Seevers wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> M115 is now being served at 100% on Desktop and Android. We will begin >>> the rollout to Stable 1% shortly - the approximate rollout schedule is now >>> as follows: >>> >>> Stable 1%: July 28th >>> Stable 10%: Aug 11th >>> Stable 50%: Aug 25th >>> Stable 100%: Sept 8th >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:52 AM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No, we don't know with certainty. >>>> >>>> You can watch >>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/releases?platform=Windows to see when >>>> 115 is being served to 100% for all platforms. Today it's at 50% for >>>> Windows, for example. >>>> On 7/26/23 5:39 PM, Jagadeesha B Y wrote: >>>> >>>> Do we know when does M115 will hit 100%? Exact date would help us to >>>> communicate on the storage partition impact to our customers. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 2:12:10 PM UTC-7 mike...@chromium.org >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 7/26/23 4:01 PM, Vi S wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Kyra, >>>>> >>>>> Per your message here ( >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/24hK6DKJnqY/m/tu0i5OmhCAAJ) >>>>> >>>>> it sounds like as of 7/26/2023, the Storage Partitioning change has not >>>>> been released yet since M115 is not served to 100% of users. Is that >>>>> correct? My understanding of this message is that M115 is currently >>>>> served >>>>> to 12.5% of users and that once M115 is served to 100% of users (which >>>>> will >>>>> happen in the next ~4 weeks), only then will the storage partition change >>>>> be rolled out in a gradual manner. Is this understanding accurate? >>>>> >>>>> That's correct. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, would you be able to provide an updated schedule for the >>>>> rollout of the storage partitioning change (similar to the one linked >>>>> here: >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/24hK6DKJnqY/m/Tts2gjrEBwAJ) >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> Once we begin the gradual roll-out, we'll provide a estimated rollout >>>>> schedule on this thread (I hesitate to do so now - it's hard to know when >>>>> we will begin exactly). >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-4 Kyra Seevers wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your email - as of today (Monday 7/24/23), the feature >>>>>> is not rolled-out to stable. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, I can confirm that the rollout schedule for this feature >>>>>> begins in M115 at Stable 1% (once M115 is served to 100% of users). M115 >>>>>> is >>>>>> currently served to 12.5% of users - you can track the status at >>>>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/releases?platform=Windows. Two >>>>>> weeks after that, we'll go to 10%, assuming no large stability or >>>>>> compatibility regressions. Then 50 and 100% at additional 2 week >>>>>> increments. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In the meantime, we have a deprecation trial ( >>>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/storage-partitioning-deprecation-trial/#participate-in-the-deprecation-trials) >>>>>> >>>>>> running in M115+ that allows sites who opt-in to maintain unpartitioned >>>>>> storage for a few milestones while they develop a >>>>>> storage-partitioning-compatible solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kyra >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:05 PM Jagadeesha B Y <jaga...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see that Chrome 115 release notes - >>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5723617717387264 mentioning about >>>>>>> storage partition being enabled by default. Could someone confirm how >>>>>>> gradual this rollout is? do we know if storage partition is rolled out >>>>>>> fully? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our SASS product has a heavy reliance on Shared worker and this >>>>>>> would break our customer use cases. We use shared worker to >>>>>>> co-ordinate >>>>>>> Web RTC signalling and websocket management which is critical for the >>>>>>> app. >>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 8:42:15 AM UTC-7 mk...@chromium.org >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> LGTM3 with all the caveats about careful rollout discussed above. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:39 PM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK - let's consider this I2S officially revived. Looking for a 3rd >>>>>>>>> LGTM to begin shipping in M115. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have implemented 3rd party deprecation trial support for M115+ >>>>>>>>> (see >>>>>>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/storage-partitioning-deprecation-trial/#participate-in-the-deprecation-trials), >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and extended the deprecation trial's expiration date accordingly to >>>>>>>>> account >>>>>>>>> for the delay. And we have the Enterprise policy ready to go. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The rollout schedule will look something like the following, >>>>>>>>> pending metrics and compatibility stability: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> July 25th: 1% of Stable population (approximately 1 week after >>>>>>>>> M115 is released) >>>>>>>>> Aug 8th: 10% >>>>>>>>> Aug 22nd: 50% >>>>>>>>> Sep 5: 100% >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As always, if we discover significant user-facing breakage we'll >>>>>>>>> explore pausing or rolling back to address. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/23 10:43 AM, Mike Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Rick and Yoav. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We learned from two partners (one internal, one external) late >>>>>>>>> last week that a 3P deprecation trial would be needed for them to >>>>>>>>> preserve >>>>>>>>> widely-used functionality while they work on a migration strategy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're tracking the work in crbug.com/1441411 and hope to have >>>>>>>>> that ready by M115. Once we land the fix, I'll circle back and look >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>> 3rd LGTM and have an updated rollout schedule. :) >>>>>>>>> On 5/1/23 12:21 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LGTM2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 16:23 Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 2:02 PM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/23 9:36 AM, Mike Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > On 4/25/23 12:00 PM, Rick Byers wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> In terms of the standards / process piece, it looks as if the >>>>>>>>>>> spec >>>>>>>>>>> >> PRs have all stalled for several months. What do you think is >>>>>>>>>>> >> necessary to get these unblocked and landed? As the last >>>>>>>>>>> engine to >>>>>>>>>>> >> implement this behavior, perhaps we shouldn't feel too >>>>>>>>>>> compelled to >>>>>>>>>>> >> block shipping on PRs landing? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was gently reminded offline that I didn't answer this part of >>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>> question - oops. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Right now it seems to me that the costs of landing these spec >>>>>>>>>>> PRs is >>>>>>>>>>> higher than we're willing to block on, given the requested >>>>>>>>>>> refactoring >>>>>>>>>>> (and yes, it's unfortunate that 3 engines would be shipping >>>>>>>>>>> essentially >>>>>>>>>>> unspecced behavior, but that's where we're at). That said, I'm >>>>>>>>>>> happy to >>>>>>>>>>> devote my few IC hours to pushing these along as a personal >>>>>>>>>>> project over >>>>>>>>>>> the coming months. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Mike. I trust your and wanderview@'s judgement here - I >>>>>>>>>> know how hard y'all have been willing to work in the past to get the >>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>> thing done in specs. Thanks for being willing to keep pushing in >>>>>>>>>> parallel. >>>>>>>>>> But given two other implementations have already shipped this, it >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> clearly already a spec bug that the spec didn't reflect reality. I >>>>>>>>>> agree >>>>>>>>>> that we shouldn't block shipping a 3rd implementation on spec >>>>>>>>>> refactoring >>>>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> LGTM1 to ship from my perspective. Obviously this will need a >>>>>>>>>> very thoughtful and careful roll-out. 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