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deprecation trial is implemented as a third-party origin trial, you may be
able to sign up as a third party.

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 23:48 Junji Genesys <junji.gene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Kyra,
>
> Thank you for communicating about the rollout plan for the storage
> partitioning.
>
> We've found that the new storage partitioning behavior has impacted our
> product, which is a web client application embedded in an iframe inside
> Salesforce and provides call center agents functionality such as handling
> phone calls. We use browser-based phone (WebRTC phone) that can pop out as
> a separate window, which communicates with the embedded client frame via
> localStorage and BroadcastChannel. The new storage partitioning restriction
> blocks this communication as our application is running as an embedded
> iframe with a top-level domain that differs from our browser phone running
> in a popped out window. Our browser phone does not work properly in that
> scenario, and as a result, users are not able to answer their calls. Many
> of our customers have started reporting this issue, and it is currently our
> top priority to address this issue given its time-sensitive nature.
>
> We've also learned about an existence of the experimental flag, two
> relevant enterprise policies and the deprecation trial for disabling this
> new change as a temporary measure. We're especially interested in the
> deprecation trial, but that can be activated only by the top-level domain
> site and there is no way for the embedded content in an iframe to activate
> the deprecation trial.
>
> I've contacted Salesforce support to see if they can sign-up and activate
> the deprecation trial, but they asked me to reach out to Chrome team to see
> if Chrome team can create a ticket with Salesforce and help them with the
> deprecation trial for unpartitioned third-party storage.
>
> Would you be able to work with Salesforce for the deprecation trial in
> their environment?
> Also, since you might have dealt with other third-party vendors before,
> what suggestions do you have on how to approach a situation like this?
> I greatly appreciate your prompt response and help on this matter.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Junji
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:50:24 PM UTC-4 Kyra Seevers wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Quick update: we began the rollout to 10% stable today.
>>
>> The new rollout schedule is approximately:
>> Stable 50%: Aug 28th
>> Stable 100%: Sept 11th
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:18 AM Tim Williams <tim.j.w...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Mike,
>>> Thanks for the update!
>>> I totally understand your timing, and it's on us to blame for missing
>>> this out (or at least we thought that it would be together with the cookie
>>> update which was postponed several times).
>>>
>>> Anyway, I encourage you to postpone the timing until the trial bug will
>>> be fixed to enable us, and other developers who would like to use the trial
>>> meta tag to be able to do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 7:55:33 PM UTC+3 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the bug report! We'll triage it in our regular meeting
>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, your understanding of the timing is correct (we've been working
>>>> on this project for 2+ years
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/WXNzM0WiQ-s/m/l10NGhaoAQAJ>,
>>>> and in dev-trial since September
>>>> <https://developer.chrome.com/en/blog/storage-partitioning-dev-trial/>
>>>> of last year). Note that advancing to a higher percentage will depend on
>>>> the stability and web-compatibility of partitioned 3P storage.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>> On 7/30/23 12:04 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've submitted the following bug:
>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1468811 since
>>>> the trial isn't working while I did everything right.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 2:52:22 AM UTC+3 Tim Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey There,
>>>>> I am truly struggling to understand the timing here.
>>>>> Currently, the partitioning is under a flag.
>>>>> Are you saying that the flag would be turned on to 100% of Desktop and
>>>>> Android users on Sept 8th THIS YEAR??
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a huge and extremely fast change, wow.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 10:33:01 PM UTC+3 Kyra Seevers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M115 is now being served at 100% on Desktop and Android. We will
>>>>>> begin the rollout to Stable 1% shortly - the approximate rollout schedule
>>>>>> is now as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stable 1%: July 28th
>>>>>> Stable 10%: Aug 11th
>>>>>> Stable 50%: Aug 25th
>>>>>> Stable 100%: Sept 8th
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:52 AM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, we don't know with certainty.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can watch
>>>>>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/releases?platform=Windows to see
>>>>>>> when 115 is being served to 100% for all platforms. Today it's at 50% 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Windows, for example.
>>>>>>> On 7/26/23 5:39 PM, Jagadeesha B Y wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we know when does M115 will hit 100%?  Exact date would help us
>>>>>>> to communicate on the storage partition impact to our customers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 2:12:10 PM UTC-7 mike...@chromium.org
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/26/23 4:01 PM, Vi S wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kyra,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Per your message here (
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/24hK6DKJnqY/m/tu0i5OmhCAAJ)
>>>>>>>> it sounds like as of 7/26/2023, the Storage Partitioning change has not
>>>>>>>> been released yet since M115 is not served to 100% of users. Is that
>>>>>>>> correct? My understanding of this message is that M115 is currently 
>>>>>>>> served
>>>>>>>> to 12.5% of users and that once M115 is served to 100% of users (which 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> happen in the next ~4 weeks), only then will the storage partition 
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> be rolled out in a gradual manner. Is this understanding accurate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally, would you be able to provide an updated schedule for
>>>>>>>> the rollout of the storage partitioning change (similar to the one 
>>>>>>>> linked
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/24hK6DKJnqY/m/Tts2gjrEBwAJ)
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once we begin the gradual roll-out, we'll provide a estimated
>>>>>>>> rollout schedule on this thread (I hesitate to do so now - it's hard to
>>>>>>>> know when we will begin exactly).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-4 Kyra Seevers wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your email - as of today (Monday 7/24/23), the
>>>>>>>>> feature is not rolled-out to stable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, I can confirm that the rollout schedule for this feature
>>>>>>>>> begins in M115 at Stable 1% (once M115 is served to 100% of users). 
>>>>>>>>> M115 is
>>>>>>>>> currently served to 12.5% of users - you can track the status at
>>>>>>>>> https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/releases?platform=Windows. Two
>>>>>>>>> weeks after that, we'll go to 10%, assuming no large stability or
>>>>>>>>> compatibility regressions. Then 50 and 100% at additional 2 week 
>>>>>>>>> increments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, we have a deprecation trial (
>>>>>>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/storage-partitioning-deprecation-trial/#participate-in-the-deprecation-trials)
>>>>>>>>> running in M115+ that allows sites who opt-in to maintain 
>>>>>>>>> unpartitioned
>>>>>>>>> storage for a few milestones while they develop a
>>>>>>>>> storage-partitioning-compatible solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kyra
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:05 PM Jagadeesha B Y <jaga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see that Chrome 115 release notes -
>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5723617717387264 mentioning
>>>>>>>>>> about storage partition being enabled by default.  Could someone 
>>>>>>>>>> confirm
>>>>>>>>>> how gradual this rollout is?  do we know if storage partition is 
>>>>>>>>>> rolled out
>>>>>>>>>> fully?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our SASS product has a heavy reliance on Shared worker and this
>>>>>>>>>> would break our customer use cases.  We use shared worker to 
>>>>>>>>>> co-ordinate
>>>>>>>>>> Web RTC signalling and websocket management which is critical for 
>>>>>>>>>> the app.
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 8:42:15 AM UTC-7 mk...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LGTM3 with all the caveats about careful rollout discussed
>>>>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:39 PM Mike Taylor <
>>>>>>>>>>> mike...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK - let's consider this I2S officially revived. Looking for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd LGTM to begin shipping in M115.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have implemented 3rd party deprecation trial support for
>>>>>>>>>>>> M115+ (see
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developer.chrome.com/blog/storage-partitioning-deprecation-trial/#participate-in-the-deprecation-trials),
>>>>>>>>>>>> and extended the deprecation trial's expiration date accordingly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to account
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the delay. And we have the Enterprise policy ready to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The rollout schedule will look something like the following,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pending metrics and compatibility stability:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> July 25th: 1% of Stable population (approximately 1 week after
>>>>>>>>>>>> M115 is released)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aug 8th: 10%
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aug 22nd: 50%
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sep 5: 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As always, if we discover significant user-facing breakage
>>>>>>>>>>>> we'll explore pausing or rolling back to address.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/23 10:43 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Rick and Yoav.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We learned from two partners (one internal, one external) late
>>>>>>>>>>>> last week that a 3P deprecation trial would be needed for them to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> preserve
>>>>>>>>>>>> widely-used functionality while they work on a migration strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We're tracking the work in crbug.com/1441411 and hope to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> that ready by M115. Once we land the fix, I'll circle back and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> look for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd LGTM and have an updated rollout schedule. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/1/23 12:21 AM, Yoav Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LGTM2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 16:23 Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 2:02 PM Mike Taylor <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/23 9:36 AM, Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 4/25/23 12:00 PM, Rick Byers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> In terms of the standards / process piece, it looks as if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> PRs have all stalled for several months. What do you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> necessary to get these unblocked and landed? As the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engine to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> implement this behavior, perhaps we shouldn't feel too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compelled to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> block shipping on PRs landing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was gently reminded offline that I didn't answer this part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> question - oops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now it seems to me that the costs of landing these spec
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PRs is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher than we're willing to block on, given the requested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refactoring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (and yes, it's unfortunate that 3 engines would be shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essentially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unspecced behavior, but that's where we're at). That said,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devote my few IC hours to pushing these along as a personal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coming months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Mike. I trust your and wanderview@'s judgement here -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know how hard y'all have been willing to work in the past to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right thing done in specs. Thanks for being willing to keep 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pushing in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parallel. But given two other implementations have already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipped this, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was clearly already a spec bug that the spec didn't reflect 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree that we shouldn't block shipping a 3rd implementation on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spec
>>>>>>>>>>>>> refactoring work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LGTM1 to ship from my perspective. Obviously this will need a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very thoughtful and careful roll-out. But I trust Mike and his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> team to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage with impacted folks to make sure it goes smoothly, as they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UA reduction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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