Okay, lets just make this perfectly clear. You don't care that a new user trying to switch from Windows to linux would be confused by having to learn all new shortcut keys, right? You are saying that in your opinion insert+t just makes so much more sense than F12 that it is more important than whether new users are confused by that shortcut key -- not to mention all the others. They can just tough it out, right? Is that fair to say?

PS: Technically, I am not arguing that F12 should be the standard. I am arguing that there should be a standard and whether it's insert+t or F12 isn't really to the point. To be fair, I think it would be next to impossible to get Freedom Scientific to change to insert+t and therefore it would be next to impossible to get nvda to change.

-- John Heim


On 04/24/2017 10:29 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
No. F12 does not mean time in any language. F12 may be a Jaws thing, and it may even be an NVDA thing, but it's far from a standard. Last I checked, time wasn't spelled with an f anything. Therefore, f12 telling me the time is stupid and illogical at best. I want my t damn it. T for time, t for tell, t for anything you like, but don't make me learn a completely stupid and illogical key combination simply because some proprietary power decided long ago that t for time was somehow insufficient. If you want f12 or even the page down key to tell you the time, by all means, please do configure Orca that way, for yourself. Those of us who have used Orca, and even those of us who came to Orca from somewhere else, fully appreciate the benefits of Orca's mnemonic keybindings over the stupid and illogical ones we had to learn in other screen readers just to get them to do basic things.
~Kyle

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