As there were no more comments on this matter, and no 
issues were raised during WGLC I will go ahead and start 
writing up the proto writeup. 

 Regards
  Shida

On Nov 20, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Raj Jain wrote:

> Hi Shida,
> 
> I think the semantics in your question are about SIP protocol level
> negotiation vs. event package level negotiation. The SA draft is
> extending RFC 4235 for the shared appearences feature. I see it as
> more of an event package extension as opposed to a SIP option tag
> extension.
> 
> Just my 2 cents,
> Raj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Shida Schubert <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  I think option tag is necessary if UA that does not understand
>> this specification barfs or breaks by receiving the parameter
>> mentioned.
>> 
>>  Regards
>>  Shida as an individual.
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Alan Johnston wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's an issue Robert has raised that we should have some discussion on 
>>> before sending this on the IESG.
>>> 
>>> The Shared Appearance draft defines a "shared" event parameter.
>>> 
>>> The question is whether this should instead be a SIP feature tag used in a 
>>> Supported and Require header fields.
>>> 
>>> I've pulled out some text from the draft, RFC 3265, and a summary of how it 
>>> is used.
>>> 
>>> What do people think?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> - - - - -
>>> 
>>> From draft-bliss-shared-appearance:
>>> 
>>> Section 12.1
>>> 
>>>  This specification defines a new event parameter 'shared' for the
>>>  Dialog Package.  When used in a NOTIFY, it indicates that the
>>>  notifier supports the shared appearance feature.  When used in a
>>>  PUBLISH, it indicates that the publisher has explicit appearance
>>>  information contained in the message body.  If not present in a
>>>  PUBLISH, the Appearance Agent MAY assign an appearance number to any
>>>  new dialogs in the message body.
>>> 
>>> From RFC 3265:
>>> 
>>> 4.4.2. Event Package Parameters
>>> 
>>>  If parameters are to be used on the "Event" header to modify the
>>>  behavior of the event package, the syntax and semantics of such
>>>  headers MUST be clearly defined.
>>> 
>>> Details on the usage:
>>> 
>>> - Appearance Agent discovery of non-Shared Appearance UA during 
>>> subscriptions.  A NOTIFY sent without <appearance> elements does not 
>>> necessarily mean the UA does not understand or support the extension, but a 
>>> NOTIFY sent without the Event:dialog;shared does  indicate this.
>>> 
>>> - Sent by a UA and interpreted by an Appearance Agent to request no 
>>> appearance number be assigned to a dialog (PUBLISH sent without 
>>> <appearance> attribute but containing Event: dialog;shared
>>> 
>>> 
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