Thank you very much for the explanation and the fix. I am confronted
by the dsltestreports stuff every day on my search for bufferbloat. I
don't consider it annoying, but as a chance to spot check!


I still might quibble, but a trimmed mean makes more sense than just a mean.

Problem I always have is bloat is biased always towards the end of a test. Here,
at 1gbit, it took nearly 20 seconds to start going boom. Maybe we need
to invent a new distribution (The bloat distribution? The TCP

You are getting towards a big dataset now. (has it been a year yet?)
Got anyone lined up for a paper on it? I'd still love it if one day
someone could take all the data you are filtering out, and plot

I imagine the user's test result is cached and not subject to these

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 5:57 PM, jb <> wrote:
> It is done
> under the trimmed mean method, that would be a "C" grade result.
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:46 AM, jb <> wrote:
>> Actually I think the concept I need is the trimmed mean.
>> throwing away the highest couple of values (lowest couple are not to be
>> thrown away because they can't be errant).
>> It isn't perfect but it would help.
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:39 AM, jb <> wrote:
>>> A while ago I changed from mean to median with the reasoning being that
>>> one spike to a crazy level was not representative of bloat but instead
>>> representative of a network stall or other anomaly. Graphs that were nearly
>>> all good samples with one outlier were being unfairly graded poorly.
>>> But this example has the opposite issue - the median of this set of
>>> samples is the first half where everything is ok. Hence the good score.
>>> Using a mean would be correct for this sample.
>>> What should happen is to throw away a couple (max) outliers first, then
>>> do a mean to avoid punishing the results that come in as good but include
>>> one errant measurement.
>>> thanks
>>> -Justin
>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Dave Taht <> wrote:
>>>> This has major bloat happening at the end of the upload test. Which
>>>> worries me - here, at a gbit.
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Täht
>>>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
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