On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Craig James <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I said to Peter, this is a collection, to the best of my knowledge
> collections are not subject to copyright, and all of the data in the
> collection was freely provided.  Beyond that, I'll make no claims at all.

Yeah, that's fine. The problem with this is, this does not hold
outside the USA, as far as I know. A collection *is* copyright
protected in NL.

It's like downloading a hollywood movie (legal in NL) from a site in a
country where uploading is allowed (I think there are several) and
then assuming this movie is Open. I don't believe that.

>> Thanx to your contribution of it to Public Domain!
>
> You're welcome, but I'm not claiming it's public domain.

:)

I was not expecting it.

> It's just useful
> and freely available.  But this dialog about copyright is distracting us
> from the real importance of the data.

True, but makes it impossible for me to redistribute as I have no clue
I am allowed (if I were American, sure)... but not everyone is
American.

> The goal is to provide a CURRENT list of available screening compounds.
>  We've had a number of customers who had spent massive amounts of time and
> computational resources on virtual screening, only to discover when they
> tried to order that over 50% of their virtual hits are no longer available
> for sale, or were bogus to begin with.  Typical screening-compound suppliers
> turn over their entire catalog every two years, so a one-year-old catalog
> means 50% of the compounds may not be available.  We try to keep eMolecules
> as current as possible, so if you use this data, you'll improve your overall
> throughput.

I definitely do not want to argue about the usefulness! I think any
free resource in itself is already useful, but it would be so much
more useful if it was clear around the world what people could do with
the data. But I will not further bug you with this, as I am sure the
international data laws are as unclear to you as to me.

What I do like to ask everyone, is that if a collection cannot be
copyrighted, what obstacles exist under USA law that make it
impossible to label it as available as a 'collection' under USA law,
or CC0/etc under any other jurisdiction.

Egon

-- 
Post-doc @ Uppsala University
http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/

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