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Today's topics: * Corruption free India :- Just a dream - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9f4d22df10562830 * redirected from main grp - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/7f2a8c2e354e1aa0 * registering BM - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f138a69b1efc11f5 * The auctioning of India - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9 * The Glorious Indian - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/284f5c3df467b53f ============================================================================== TOPIC: Corruption free India :- Just a dream http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9f4d22df10562830 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Jan 19 2006 5:46 am From: "Shashwat Pandey" Lalu yadav is a law graduate from patna university, i do not claim anything about his IQ, but i am sure he is not educated, he is very clever but i don't think he has any education, same is the case with Atiq Ahemed (M.P from allahabad), he has 22 murder cases against him, in indian constitution everyone is free to fight election, what i want is there records should be made available to voter's in the polling booth there are criminal records today but these result will enable people from getting an overview of their representative, we spend so much time before we select any comodities, why vote immediatly? i cannot think of any other place where these sort of info can be placed which is available to all voters then the pooling booth itself. getting a graduation degree is the simplest thing in india, i happen to see one "CHATRA NETA", (student leader) in Kashi Vidyapeeth Varanasi who moves around with gun's to protect education. i want to keep people like these out of LS, if we can have only graduates in LS we will be able to avoide another Phoolen devi from entering LS. due to my certain other obligations i am a bit busy, will discuss this issue in length after some time if you are also free. Regards Shashwat ============================================================================== TOPIC: redirected from main grp http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/7f2a8c2e354e1aa0 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Thurs, Jan 19 2006 7:58 pm From: Moderator BhartUdayMission *From:* "superior_aryan_amit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Subject:* may the organisation structure fulfill its goals bharatiya yodhao as the final tally of all the members of various team has been listed in the mails ,its is heart warming to see many familiar names in the list and they are ready to work not for mere post but for country.. its ia also very good to see that most of my close associate of mumbai chapters have decided to work outside the foray of organisation structure which was surprising to me too,but at the end physical communication help me to make them understand ,as for the other to members[pooja & abhijeet]would surely cordinate with national team so tht we are always well informed.. But the sad part and after effect of all this thing has left us with a member less thats is-AMIT KUMAR SRIVASTAV who mention us that he will no longer be part of BM which is sad but.... as i would like the members of various team to follow the example of- propagation TEAM-"JOSEPH GOEBBLES" MEDIA TEAM- "RUPERT MURDOCH GROUND WORK TEAM- "SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE LEAGL TEAM- "MOHAMMAD ALI JINNAH" FINANCIAL TEAM "WARREN BUFFET" ADMIN TEAM " EMPORER AKBAR" JAI HIND ============================================================================== TOPIC: registering BM http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/f138a69b1efc11f5 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Fri, Jan 20 2006 10:38 am From: Divya One if the ideas that a BM Hyderabad member(Rahul) put forward is to register a social service wing of BM. This will be very helpful in fund raising as most of the problems we face are because we are not registered. Some members(Mujeeb etc.) are currenly working on finding out the details abput registering a social service organization which will work exclusively under BM. This i a very important matter and we feel it's better than working with other organizations and taking the credit as BM's work. We can name it Bhumi, as Parjanya suggested.(nice name by the way). Please consider this matter to be very important, as we are taking on some big projects here in Hyd and mobilizing funds from corporates etc. can only be done if our organization is registered. I understand that we cannot register ourselves as a political organization yet, which is why I feel registering a voluntary organization which will work under the BM banner is the way to go. Please comment and let's reach a consensus on this asap. Regards, Divya -- "We have only one passion, The rise of a Great Nation." Visit Bharat Uday Mission at http://bharatudaymission.org/ Jai Hind! ============================================================================== TOPIC: The auctioning of India http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Fri, Jan 20 2006 1:17 am From: shashwat pandey Dear BM Members, Below is an interesting article on present UPA Govt. This govt. is trying hard to shake our roots, HRD minister is re-writing Indian history so that next gen India does not have any clue about what they are and what are their capabilities, one must get very cautious about Indias present govt. moves which are focused to change very social structure of India which has over seen foreign invasion's since last 1000 yrs, this is an attempt to dismantle India and create a bunch of people without any feeling of belonging-ness to our motherland. Regards Shashwat Pandey http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name==Content&pa==showpage&pid=4& page= The auctioning of India By M.D. Nalapat That the UPA regime passively accepted the transmission of upto a thousand of tons of toxic asbestos into the lungs and livers of thousands of Indian workers is a symbol of the reality that the countryâs interests are being auctioned off by the Sonia-led government. The constituents of the UPA shout their support for the ârights of the workerâ every other day, yet they are silent when floating deathâin the form of the poisonous hulk of a French aircraft carrierâis steaming towards India without a murmur of protest by even the â proletarianâ parties. In effect, what the Sonia-led administration is decreeing is that the UPA prefers that those who will be killed by the asbestos are Indian rather than French. The welcoming of toxic waste from France is just one of the numerous ways in which the interests of the people of India are being auctioned by the UPA. Another is the way members of the Hurriyat Conference in Kashmir, who have been supporting terrorism in the state since it was formed by Pakistan-friendly groups, have been given effective authority to negotiate with their backers in Islamabad over ways that would delink Kashmir from the rest of India. The fawning manner in which the higher levels of UPA officialdom interact with the Hurriyat and other anti-India forces has helped demoralise those in the state who stand for a united India. These neglected patriots are aware that individuals such as Farook Kathwari and Ejaz Mansur who seek to detach Kashmir from India have regular contact with Sonia favourites, and that the two sides may be conducting an auction of Indian interests. One of Soniaâs favourites is Wajahat Habibullah, who lashed out at this columnist some years ago when he had the temerity to point out that several temples had been destroyed in Kashmir without any protest by supposedly democratic politicians. âThe Kashmiris donât need lessons in secularism from youâ, was Habibullahâs retort. True. Who in the UPA cares if temples get destroyed? Who in Sonia Raj cares if senior officials commit themselves in writing to concepts that would end Indian control over Kashmir, that too in think-tanks known to favour the jehad in Kashmir. Is it in any way surprising that Palaniappan Chidambaram has imposed restriction after restriction on Indian companies, so that they will be unable to compete with the foreign entities that are thus helped by the UPA? Is it in any way surprising that the policies of the UPA are helping Chinese and other companies to wipe out Indian competitors, and to prevent India from challenging China as a platform for manufactures? Manmohan Singh, like Chinaâs Deng Xiaoping, is brilliant in economic policy. But he has handed over charge of this to the Sonia brigade. And incomprehensibly for many who know and respect him, the âPrime Ministerâ has been engaged in destroying Indiaâs nuclear defenses by seeking to conclude a deal with India-negative elements in Washington that would cripple our defenses against a nuclear attack. One after the other, crucial Indian interests are being auctioned away. Who in the UPA cares if temples get destroyed? Who in Sonia Raj cares if senior officials commit themselves in writing to concepts that would end Indian control over Kashmir, that too in think-tanks known to favour the jehad in Kashmir. Surprisingly for those who take press freedom seriously, Sonia Gandhi has thus far received an excellent press, especially in the western world. Because she belongs to one of the European tribes, western mediapersons have fawned over Sonia Gandhi as much as their (far more constrained) Indian counterparts. Although it would have been a simple task for the well-funded news bureaus of western publications to investigate the lifestyles of Sonia Gandhiâs sisters and mother, and trace the mismatch between discernible sources of income and these, this has not even been attempted. Neither has an examination of the scholastic record of the three children of Stefano Maino, nor his activities and known income sources before Ottavio Quattrochiâa true Santa Clausâwedged his way into their lives in the 1980s. Nor has even the most meagre of efforts been made to trace the activities of Sonia Gandhi in the vicinity of Cambridge during the period before she won the heart of Rajiv Gandhi. Of course, neither has any Indian publication, though these at least have the excuse of not being capable of standing up to the retribution that would surely follow any expose. However, the fact that Sonia Gandhi was born in Italy should not be used as a point against her. There are thousands of cases of women from other societies marrying Indians and settling down in this country in a way respectful of the landâs traditions and chemistry. In particular, several individuals from the western world have understood and internalised the ethos of India in a way few who were born here could achieve. These individuals come from the UK, the US, Germany, Italy and other countries. They have learnt to love this land, even though it is admittedly much less ordered and developed than that which they left behind. They have, through their love for this land, its culture and its people have become part of India. Is Sonia Gandhi one of them, or does she belong to the group who inherently dislikes this country and resents the fact that their husbands returned here rather than remained abroad? Those who oppose Sonia Gandhi in politics do so not because she was born in Italyâa country with a rich history where family loyalties paralell that found in Indiaâbut because of their conviction that Sonia Gandhi has very little understanding of India, and even less regard for its culture. According to Sonia, Rajiv wanted her to be in active politics. This is something unknown to many who were close to the shy pilot who took over Indiaâs destiny on October 31, 1984. The reality is that Italianâand not Hindiâwas the language used in communication between the family members. The reality is that every Sunday there was a âbrunchâ in the Prime Ministerâs House to which very few Indians got invited. The reality is that Sonia Gandhi is still ill at ease among ordinary Indians. Indeed, so pervasive is her conviction that Indians are biased that she is even hesitant to openly acknowledge that she is Catholic, refusing to kiss the Popeâs ring in public. And this in a country that has willingly accepted a Sikh Prime Minister, a Catholic UPA Chairperson and a Muslim President. Indeed, both President Kalam and Prime Minister Singh embody the pluralistic ethos of India, blending seamlessly into the landâs syncretic traditions, proud to acknowledge publicly their faiths. Rajiv Gandhi gave two precious gifts to Sonia, and these are his two children. Priyanka has charm and chemistry, and is clearly a winner in politics. Rahul has a sensible head on young shoulders, and the few comments that he has been allowed to make have been suffused with a wisdom in excess of his years. It is time for Sonia Gandhi to give Manmohan Singh his freedom by making him AICC President as well, and hand over the UPA Chairmanship to an alliance partner. She should simultaneously encourage those two treasures, Priyanka and Rahul. This would be the best way to begin to reverse a course that is compromising not simply the future of India, but also that of the Congress Party. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================== TOPIC: The Glorious Indian http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/284f5c3df467b53f ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Fri, Jan 20 2006 3:33 am From: shashwat pandey Dear Members, Though this mail is long but worth reading, we belong to a great civilisation, and must stick to it, there is no use praising america or any other country for their technical achivement, we with our own resource have the capability to achive much better status then what US and other countries have. Regards Shashwat Pandey The ancient Indian sages discovered the miracles of modern scientific tools. Believe it or not, the following are the glorious examples of them. I. The Concept of Zero The concept of zero came from the revered Hindu sages in Vedic times thousands of years ago. Without the concept of zero the binary system is blind. No counting, no commerce or no computer business. The earliest documented "date" was found in today's Gujarat [BC 585-586] in an inscription on Sankedia copper plate. In BrahamaphutaSiddhanta of Brahamagupta (7th century CE), zero was lucidly explained. Muslim invaders from Central Asia crossing the Hindukush mountain ranges invaded Bharat 1300 years ago and plundered its beauty, riches, books, thrones and what not. They plagued the holy land with sword, loot, arson and rape and destroyed and ravaged the whole land in the name of jehad and "Allah". There was no Steven Spielberg (Schindler's List) like cinema director who could document this sordid past of our history. There was no patent system at that time. Might was right. They considered those substances of robbery maal-e-ganimat (booty looted from kafirs to be distributed among themselves and friends of theirs) and thus inculcated those invaluable theorems of mathematics, astronomy and geometry in Arabic books in around 770- 1200 CE. From there, those extraordinary concepts were carried to Spanish Europe in the 8th century. However the concept of zero was referred to as shunya in the early Sanskrit texts of the 4th century BC and was clearly explained in Pingala's Chand Sutra of the 2nd century too. II. The Contribution to Astronomy Hindu sages told modern scientists how to map the sky in terms of glaring stars almost 4000 years ago. Copernicus published his theory of revolution of the Earth around the Sun in 1543 AD only. But our Aryabhatta in the 5th century had stated that the Earth revolves around the Sun in these specific words: "Just as a person boarding on a boat feels that the trees on the banks are moving, people on the revolving earth also feel that the sun is moving". Such illustrious teaching of astronomy was rarely seen in the contemporary writings of the Greek astronomers. In his Aryabhatteem, he clearly stated that our Earth was round and it rotated on its own axis, orbited the Sun and was suspended in the space. It also explained that the lunar and solar eclipses occurred by the interplay of the shadows of the Sun, the Moon and the Earth. III. The Law of Gravity The Law of Gravity was known to the ancient Hindu astronomer Bhaskaracharya. In his Surya Siddhanta he noted: "Objects fall on the Earth due to force of attraction of the Earth. Therefore, the Earth, planets, constellations, the Moon, and the Sun are all held in the galaxy due to this great cosmic attraction." It was in 16871200 years laterthat Sir Isaac Newton discovered (re- discovered?) the Law of Gravity, which was already invented by the greatest Hindu astronomer Bhaskaracharya, of course which was written in the holiest language, Sanskrit. IV. The Invention of Trikonmiti The word geometry seems to have emerged from the Sanskrit word gyaamiti, which means measuring the Earth. And the word trigonometry is similar to trikonmiti meaning measuring triangular forms. Euclid was famous for the invention of geometry in 300 BC whilst the concept of trikonmiti had emerged in 1000 BC in Bharat. It is evident lucidly from today's "practice of making fire alters (at homagni kshetra) in different shapes, e.g., round, triangular, hexagonal, pentagonal, square and rectangular". It was part and parcel of daily pujas and homagnis in ancient times. The treatise of Surya Siddhanta (4th century) described in fascinating details about trigonometry, which was introduced in Europe by Briggs 1200 years later in the 16th century. V. The Invention of Infinity The value of "Pi" was first invented by the ancient sages of Bharat. The ratio of circumference and diameter of a circle is known as "Pi" which gives its value as 3.14592657932... The old Sanskrit text Baudhayna Sulbha Sutra of the 6th century BC mentioned that above-mentioned ratio as approximately equalled to that of Aryabhatta's ratio [in 499 BC] worked out the value of "Pi" to the fourth decimal place as [3x (177/1250) = 3.1416]. Many centuries later, in 825 AD, Arab mathematician, Mohammed Ibn Musa admitted: "This value of "Pi" was given by the Hindus (62832/20,000 = 3.1416)." VI. Baudhayna's Sulbha Sutra versus Pythagoras's Theorem The famous Pythagoras's theorem states: "The square of the hypotenuse angled triangle equals to the sum of the two sides." This theorem was actually discovered by Euclid in 300 BC but Greek writers attributed this to Pythagoras. But the irony of fate is that our so-called intellectuals (indeed Macaulay's sons who have forgotten their old but rich and glorious ancient Hindu heritage) had also accepted that theorem as a contribution of Pythagoras. They never read or tried to know that Baudhayna's Sulbha Sutra which has been existing for many thousands of years (written in the Sanskrit) had already described lucidly the theorem as follows: "The area produced by the diagonal of a rectangle is equal to the sum of the area produced by it on two sides." VII. The Measurement of Time or Time Scale In Surya Siddhanta, Bhaskaracharya calculated the time taken by the Earth to revolve around the Sun up to the 9th decimal place. According to Bhaskaracharya's calculation it is 365.258756484 days. Modern scientist accepted a value of the same time as 365.2596 days. The difference between the two observations made by ancient Hindu sage Bhaskaracharya just by using his super brain (in the 4th century AD) and today's NASA (National Aeronautic and Space Agency) scientists of America by using super computer (in the 20th century AD) is only 0.00085, i.e., 0.0002 per cent of difference. The ancient Bharatbhoomi had given the world the idea of the smallest and largest measuring units of Time. In modern time, only Stephen Hockings, Cambridge University Professor of theoretical physics, had the courage to venture into the abysmal depth of the eternity of Time. Astonishingly, our ancient sages taught us the following units of time: Krati =34,000th of a second Truti =300th of a second 2 Truti =1 Luv 2 Luv = 1 Kshana 30 Kshana =1 Vipal 60 Vipal = 1 Pal 60 Pal = 1 Ghadi (=24 Minutes) 2.5 Ghadi = 1 Hora (=1 Hour) 24 Hora = 1 Divas (1 Day) 7 Divas = 1 Saptah (1 Week) 4 Saptah = 1 Maas (1 Month) 2 Maas = 1 Ritu (1 Season) 6 Ritu = 1 Varsha (1 Year) 100 Varsha = 1 Satabda (1 Century) 10 Shatabda = 1 Saharabda 432 Saharabda = 1Yug(Kali Yuga)) 2 Yuga = 1 Dwapar Yuga 3 Yuga = 1 Treta Yuga 4 Yuga = Kruta Yuga 10 Yuga = 1 Maha Yuga (4,320,000) 1000 Maha Yuga = 1 Kalpa 1 Kalpa = 4.32 Billion Years. Therefore, the lowest was 34,000th of a second known as krati and the highest of the measurement of the Time was known as kalpa, which equalled to 4.32 billion years. Is it not amazing? Are you not feeling proud to be a Hindu descendent? Swami Vivekananda, the modern sage of Bharat, stated in his famous sermons compiled in his Rousing Call to the Hindu Nation, "Take pride in Hinduism; pronounce yourselves as a descendant of a Hindu. Boast to be a Hindu and give a clarion call to rouse the Hindu nation from its lethargy and slumber." VIII. The Invention of Decimal System It was the ancient Bharatbhoomi that gave us the ingenious methods of expressing all the numbers by means of 10 symbols (decimal systems)an invaluable and gorgeous idea that escaped the genius of Archimedes and Apollonius, two of the greatest Greek philosophers and mathematician produced by antiquity (100-130BC). The highest prefix used for raising 10 to the power in today's mathematics is "D" for 1030 (for Greek Deca).While as early as 100 BC Hindu mathematicians had exact names for figures up to 1053. a. Ekam = 1 b. Dashkam = 10 (101) c. 1 Shatam = 100 (102) d. 10 Shatam = 1 Shahashram = 1000 (103) e. 10 Dash Shahashram = 10,000 (104) f. Laksha = 100,000 (105) g. Dash Laksha = 10,00,000 (106) h. Kotihi = 10, 00, 0000 (107) i. Ayutam = 100,000,000 (109) j. Niyutam = 100,000,000,000 (1011) k. Kankaram = 10,000,000,000,000 (1013) l. Vivaram = 10,000,000,000,000,000 (1016) m. Pararadahaa = 1017 n. Nivahata = 1019 o. Utsangaha = 1021 p. Bahulam = 1023 q. Naagbaalaha = 1025 r. Titlambam = 1027 s. Vyavasthaanapragnaptihi = 1029 t. Hetuhellam = 1031 u. Karahuhu = 1033 v. Hetvindreeyam = 1035 w. Sampaata Lambhaha = 1037 x. Gananaagatihi = 1039 y. Niravadyam = 1041 z. Mudraabalam = 1043 aa. Saraabalam = 1045 ab. Vishamagnagatihi = 1047 ac. Sarvagnaha = 1049 ad. Vibhutangaama = 1051 ae. Tallakshanaam = 1053 Is it not amazing to know that the ancient Hindu sages used to remember them just by using their outstanding memory power or was there some super computer known to them also, which we are quite unaware of? In Anuyogadwar Sutra, written 100 BC, one numeral had been shown to be raised to as high as 10140 which is beyond our outmost stretches of imagination. All of our remaining hidden treasures, which had not been destroyed or stolen by the foreign mercenaries and invaders, were written in Sanskrit, mother of all languages, which should be revived. It is our legacy to inherit such rich property that our forefather had left for us by their meticulous observations over thousands of years ago. All hidden treasures are written in Sanskrit, which we are quite ignorant of and our so-called Macaulay's sons are trying their best to prevent us from knowing about our glorious past. Sir Monier- Williams rightly said: "Hindus are perhaps the only nation, except the Greeks, who have investigated independently and in true scientific manner, the general laws that govern the evolution of languages." There was no patent system at that time. Might was right. They considered those substances of robbery maal-e-ganimat (booty looted from kafirs to be distributed among themselves and friends of theirs) and thus inculcated those invaluable theorems of mathematics, astronomy and geometry in Arabic books in around 770- 1200 CE. More than this, the Hindus had made considerable advances in astronomy, algebra, arithmetics, botany and medicine, not to mention their superiority in grammar, long before some of these sciences were cultivated by the most ancient nations of Europe. Indeed, Hindus were Spinozists 2000 years before the birth of Spinoza, Darwinians many centuries before the birth of Darwin, and evolutionists, centuries before the doctrine of evolution had been accepted by Aldus Huxley's of our times, and before any word like evolution existed in any language in this world. We should take a vow to work together to search those hidden treasures out, propagate the notion that Sanskrit is not a dead language. Sanskrit is the elite of the elitist, classic of the classics and it should be revived once again. We will again sit in the seat of the world assembly with our head held high and with pride. I would like to draw the final touch with the quotation from Swami Vivekananda, "I do not see into the future nor do I care to see. But one vision I see clear as life before me, that the ancient Mother has awakened once more sitting on her throne rejuvenated, more glorious than ever. Proclaim her to all the world with the voice of peace and benediction." (The writer is Associate Professor, Department of Medicine, Manipal Teaching Hospital, Pokhara, Nepal, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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