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Today's topics: * The Cast system and its importance - 2 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/2a7ff3dbb1604f50 ============================================================================== TOPIC: The Cast system and its importance http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/2a7ff3dbb1604f50 ============================================================================== == 1 of 2 == Date: Fri, Feb 24 2006 12:03 am From: shashwat pandey Sir, The reason why you don't understand what is wrong is because we all have been subjected to a very deep rooted conspiracy against Hinduism, Sir we decide mainly based on our judgment which is influenced by our surrounding's, which is being polluted for a specific cause, we are forced to move away against our tradition we are made to laugh on our very own customs and we make a joke of them, people today (Young one) are made to understand that chanting skolks with hand movement is a funny thing, and we agree to this blindly, here what we fail to understand is this has a meaning, which is related to purity of thought's when we chant sholks with movement of body the force which is exerted by chanting them associated with body movement helps in keeping your body fit and mind focused, it is not easy to simultaneously do two things, our brain is not trained to handle two things at the same time, this act of chanting sholks with body movements helps our brain to handle simultaneous things together. Sir today cast has been associated by the virtue of birth this has been done by people in power in order to create difference, just imagine what will happen when there is no discrimination based on birth, this has been inserted into our minds by rulers and politicians, this is against Hinduism they have modified the concept of cast system for their own benefit, if you read Roopali's mail you will come to know this diversion has not been started today but is in practice since the time of her great-grand father, and this deviation has been opposed by likes of Swami Dayanand Sarswati, Raja Rammohen Roy, Swami Vivekanand and other's, but their act's have been put into dark deliberately by people in power today, so that they can keep on propagating their message of hate, whereas when their activities are highlighted by organization like RSS, VHP and individuals like swami Ramdev etc, they are labeled as propagating violence, sir you might remember the controversy that surrounded swami Ramdev, some times back, it is this that we have to unmask Sir my request to you and to all members who are reading this mail is to understand and propagate the actual meaning of Hinduism, those who try to divide people on the basis of cast we must answer them by telling them the truth that cast is not based on the virtue of birth but by virtue of Karma. Once we are able to make people understand this simple fact we will see a prosperous and advancing India without any violence and any sort of hate what so ever. Question:- Why cast system is so important? Why should we practice it at all? Answer:- Sir have a look at any organization today, we have a CEO, we have many director's then leads then engineers then support staff, Sir do you want to oppose this system? this is a very convenient way to ensure smooth operation of the organization, why not apply this same concept on society? there are people who can do one particular job better then anyone else and that is why they are assign that job, hence the entire company (society) befits, here again Sir an engineer can surly rise to become CEO of the company, by his hard work and innovative thinking, no-one is a born CEO, this is what is essence of cast system. As entry point for any person is engineer similarly entry point for any person is Shudra, sir kindly point out in case you have a better supplement for this system. One more point to make clear to people is that today politicians are trying and will be trying to propagate hate in various form it can be based on religion, cast, sex or they may even invent a new mode they may even try to divide people based on what language they speak, they may even try to divide people based on which location they live in. We must make people aware of these actual traitor's of our motherland. Sir help in propagating the beauty of our land and inform people about rich and colorful culture that we have this will be your biggest service to your motherland. Jai Hind, Jai Bhart. Shashwat Pandey sudarshan baurai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shashwat, I really don't find anything on the linked page of DALIT VOICE which is away from truth. Infact everything there seems to be correct compilation. Its true that only the bad part is high lighted but it should not be when this is actually being practiced on the ground. Actually, one can feel the pain when one is born in a family whom most people would ditch by saying lower, even the fool but born in Brahmin can speak and insult one very normal person. And this is very much in our caste system. This is also a way to show the anger. A person like you should rather come ahead and do something to eradicate such bad tradition. Perhaps if were born as chamar would have certainely done that. And now you must be feeling a angry on me. In one way if anybody is bringing the weaknesses of Hinduism in light in such a fashion than thats actually good for this religion, as perhaps people will try to think on this. Please do some ground work do something to remove castiesm, embrace the lower caste today, stop writing pandey an open show of your brahminism, don't accept dowry and give dowry, don't descriminate between a female child and a male child. Avoid the protion from those religips books where there is a mention of castiesm and I think this is what is the objective of bringing all about DALIT VOICE. But you want to fight by saying everything is good in your religion than you can keep discussing as nothing can come out of this false boldness. Sudarshan Regards Shashwat Pandey Lets change india.... join hands to change the face of india by changing the people who represent it... Join --> http://www.bharatudaymission.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. == 2 of 2 == Date: Fri, Feb 24 2006 5:19 pm From: "Dr. N.S. REDDY" Dear Shaswat Pandey, Your mail is very nice and I understand that you have in-depth knowledge in this field.As per you, At entry point every one is Sudra. But here, by birth we are getting our Caste with us. We are having caste system in such a way, they devided into Upper, backward and Lower castes based on Birth. I strongly believe, we need to get rid of the Caste system for the development. So I started it with myself. In my name " Reddy" indicates Caste, now I removed this "Reddy" from my son. I faced lot of criticism from my elders, friends and relatives. Let us hope for the best... With regards nsreddy.... On 2/24/06, shashwat pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sir, > > The reason why you don't understand what is wrong is because we all have > been subjected to a very deep rooted conspiracy against Hinduism, Sir we > decide mainly based on our judgment which is influenced by our > surrounding's, which is being polluted for a specific cause, we are forced > to move away against our tradition we are made to laugh on our very own > customs and we make a joke of them, people today (Young one) are made to > understand that chanting skolks with hand movement is a funny thing, and we > agree to this blindly, here what we fail to understand is this has a > meaning, which is related to purity of thought's when we chant sholks with > movement of body the force which is exerted by chanting them associated with > body movement helps in keeping your body fit and mind focused, it is not > easy to simultaneously do two things, our brain is not trained to handle two > things at the same time, this act of chanting sholks with body movements > helps our brain to handle simultaneous things together. > > Sir today cast has been associated by the virtue of birth this has been > done by people in power in order to create difference, just imagine what > will happen when there is no discrimination based on birth, this has been > inserted into our minds by rulers and politicians, this is against Hinduism > they have modified the concept of cast system for their own benefit, if you > read Roopali's mail you will come to know this diversion has not been > started today but is in practice since the time of her great-grand father, > and this deviation has been opposed by likes of Swami Dayanand Sarswati, > Raja Rammohen Roy, Swami Vivekanand and other's, but their act's have been > put into dark deliberately by people in power today, so that they can keep > on propagating their message of hate, whereas when their activities are > highlighted by organization like RSS, VHP and individuals like swami Ramdev > etc, they are labeled as propagating violence, sir you might remember the > controversy that surrounded swami Ramdev, some times back, it is this that > we have to unmask > > Sir my request to you and to all members who are reading this mail is to > understand and propagate the actual meaning of Hinduism, those who try to > divide people on the basis of cast we must answer them by telling them the > truth that cast is not based on the virtue of birth but by virtue of Karma. > Once we are able to make people understand this simple fact we will see a > prosperous and advancing India without any violence and any sort of hate > what so ever. > > *Question:- Why cast system is so important? Why should we practice it at > all?* > > Answer:- Sir have a look at any organization today, we have a CEO, we have > many director's then leads then engineers then support staff, Sir do > you want to oppose this system? this is a very convenient way to ensure > smooth operation of the organization, why not apply this same concept on > society? there are people who can do one particular job better then anyone > else and that is why they are assign that job, hence the entire company > (society) befits, here again Sir an engineer can surly rise to become CEO of > the company, by his hard work and innovative thinking, no-one is a born CEO, > this is what is essence of cast system. As entry point for any person is > engineer similarly entry point for any person is Shudra, sir kindly point > out in case you have a better supplement for this system. > > One more point to make clear to people is that today politicians are > trying and will be trying to propagate hate in various form it can be based > on religion, cast, sex or they may even invent a new mode they may even try > to divide people based on what language they speak, they may even try to > divide people based on which location they live in. We must make people > aware of these actual traitor's of our motherland. > > Sir help in propagating the beauty of our land and inform people about > rich and colorful culture that we have this will be your biggest service to > your motherland. > > Jai Hind, Jai Bhart. > > Shashwat Pandey > > > > *sudarshan baurai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Shashwat, > > I really don't find anything on the linked page of DALIT VOICE which is > away from truth. Infact everything there seems to be correct compilation. > Its true that only the bad part is high lighted but it should not be when > this is actually being practiced on the ground. > > Actually, one can feel the pain when one is born in a family whom most > people would ditch by saying lower, even the fool but born in Brahmin can > speak and insult one very normal person. And this is very much in our caste > system. This is also a way to show the anger. A person like you should > rather come ahead and do something to eradicate such bad tradition. Perhaps > if were born as chamar would have certainely done that. And now you must be > feeling a angry on me. > > In one way if anybody is bringing the weaknesses of Hinduism in light in > such a fashion than thats actually good for this religion, as perhaps people > will try to think on this. > > Please do some ground work do something to remove castiesm, embrace the > lower caste today, stop writing pandey an open show of your brahminism, > don't accept dowry and give dowry, don't descriminate between a female child > and a male child. Avoid the protion from those religips books where there is > a mention of castiesm and I think this is what is the objective of bringing > all about DALIT VOICE. But you want to fight by saying everything is good in > your religion than you can keep discussing as nothing can come out of this > false boldness. > > Sudarshan > > > > > Regards > Shashwat Pandey > > Lets change india.... join hands to change the face of india by changing > the people who represent it... > > Join --> http://www.bharatudaymission.org > > > ------------------------------ > Yahoo! Mail > Use > Photomail<http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/pmall2/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com>to > share photos without annoying attachments. > > -- Dr. N. Subba Reddy POSTECH, Pohang, KOREA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 82-54-279-5215 Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! www.bharatudaymission.org ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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