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Today's topics: * Late Mr. Surjan Singh Bhandari - 4 messages, 2 authors http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/d0b8810c1fafb15a * THE ROLE OF PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA IN OUR ORGANISATION - 1 messages, 1 author http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9feb7326bcfe5756 ============================================================================== TOPIC: Late Mr. Surjan Singh Bhandari http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/d0b8810c1fafb15a ============================================================================== == 1 of 4 == Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 12:28 pm From: Anil Do you think we can merge military training with NCC and then make it compulsory for everyone to take the training?? But I don't think parents will be ready for a move like that. For lot of them life begins and ends with education. Coming from the south I have seen some very extreme mentalities as well. On 3/19/06, रजनीश मंगला <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > सही कह रहे हो अंकुर, दरअसल > मेरा मतलब मिलिटरी > ट्रेनिंग से ही था > > > -- Bye Anil == 2 of 4 == Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 10:05 am From: "Ankur Gattani" Sainik schools.. that i know of... still churn out the best of kids.. let military training not be confused with a very high degree of training in combat and use of arms/ammunition. we're talking of instilling military discipline in every student. resident/boarding schools can incorporate it.. that's in a way.. an integral component of a wholesome personality.. govt. schools have too many issues to resolve anyways.. what's to be seen is.. if the idea finds any private takers! Regards, Ankur On 3/22/06, Anil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you think we can merge military training with NCC and then make it > compulsory for everyone to take the training?? > > But I don't think parents will be ready for a move like that. For lot of > them life begins and ends with education. Coming from the south I have seen > some very extreme mentalities as well. > > > On 3/19/06, रजनीश मंगला <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bye > > Anil > > > -- Ankur Gattani IIT Bombay 98692 52842 "A crucial task before us is to overcome the defeatist mentality that has crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." A.P.J.Abdul Kalam Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! www.bharatudaymission.org == 3 of 4 == Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 10:15 am From: Anil I didn't mean training with arms either. I only meant the physical and mental training that the military gets. And unless it is forced I don't see many parents willing to see their children go through all that. And Anks, I haven't heard of Sainik Schools. Whats their curriculum like?? On 3/22/06, Ankur Gattani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sainik schools.. that i know of... still churn out the best of kids.. > > let military training not be confused with a very high degree of training > in combat and use of arms/ammunition. > > we're talking of instilling military discipline in every student. > resident/boarding schools can incorporate it.. that's in a way.. an integral > component of a wholesome personality.. > > govt. schools have too many issues to resolve anyways.. what's to be seen > is.. if the idea finds any private takers! > > Regards, > > Ankur > > > On 3/22/06, Anil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you think we can merge military training with NCC and then make it > > compulsory for everyone to take the training?? > > > > But I don't think parents will be ready for a move like that. For lot of > > them life begins and ends with education. Coming from the south I have seen > > some very extreme mentalities as well. > > > > > > On 3/19/06, रजनीश मंगला <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bye > > > > Anil > > > > "A crucial task before us is to overcome the defeatist mentality that has > crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic > belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." > A.P.J.Abdul Kalam > > Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! > www.bharatudaymission.org > > -- Bye Anil == 4 of 4 == Date: Wed, Mar 22 2006 10:47 am From: "Ankur Gattani" Hi! As far as I know, Britain has a compulsory requirement of military service for every male in the nation. We only need the training.... basically.. the parents have to be made to see sense in the usefullness of the discipline that is inculcated in the child when it goes through such a rigorous training program. It would have positive repercussions on anything the boy/girl does in future! As for Sainik Schools, they have a hostel system, our regular CBSE curriculum, but adding on to it, there's some kind of an NCC discipline.. regarding the exercise routine and all! i think you can find out more about it on google! I have a couple of friends in IIT, who have been to sainik schools, and definitely relish the experience.. even beyond hte joys of hostel life and all. Cheers! Ankur On 3/22/06, Anil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't mean training with arms either. I only meant the physical and > mental training that the military gets. And unless it is forced I don't see > many parents willing to see their children go through all that. > > And Anks, I haven't heard of Sainik Schools. Whats their curriculum like?? > > > > > On 3/22/06, Ankur Gattani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sainik schools.. that i know of... still churn out the best of kids.. > > > > let military training not be confused with a very high degree of > > training in combat and use of arms/ammunition. > > > > we're talking of instilling military discipline in every student. > > resident/boarding schools can incorporate it.. that's in a way.. an integral > > component of a wholesome personality.. > > > > govt. schools have too many issues to resolve anyways.. what's to be > > seen is.. if the idea finds any private takers! > > > > Regards, > > > > Ankur > > > > > > On 3/22/06, Anil < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Do you think we can merge military training with NCC and then make it > > > compulsory for everyone to take the training?? > > > > > > But I don't think parents will be ready for a move like that. For lot > > > of them life begins and ends with education. Coming from the south I have > > > seen some very extreme mentalities as well. > > > > > > > > > On 3/19/06, रजनीश मंगला <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Bye > > > > > > Anil > > > > > > > "A crucial task before us is to overcome the defeatist mentality that > > has > > crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic > > belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." > > A.P.J.Abdul Kalam > > > > Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! > > > > <http://www.bharatudaymission.org/> > > > > > > -- > Bye > Anil > > -- Ankur Gattani IIT Bombay 98692 52842 "A crucial task before us is to overcome the defeatist mentality that has crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." A.P.J.Abdul Kalam Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! www.bharatudaymission.org ============================================================================== TOPIC: THE ROLE OF PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA IN OUR ORGANISATION http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/9feb7326bcfe5756 ============================================================================== == 1 of 1 == Date: Tues, Mar 21 2006 1:19 pm From: Anil Hi all, I agree with you satya when you say that this group is under utilized. But I wouldn't agree to it when u say that we should be talking abt media sometime in the future. Ofcourse some ground work, or probably lots, has to be done now. But once a part of it is done, then the media will arrive before you can sit and decide who should take credit for the work done.(Not that someone will want to take credit but when it is with media, you can't expect nething) I'm not saying anything "for or against" media but just that their requirements sometimes demand what they do. For them writing an article which makes good news is very important for themselves and their paper. So they will try and extract as much as they can out of you. And if we can make good use of Media then it would be terrific for us too. I believe that MEDIA IS THE BEST MEANS FOR PUBLICITY IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO YOU ARE. I don't think you must be tight-lipped with time, but instead maintain transparency. And I see no point in the rule that your name must not appear in the paper. When some good work has been done then the media will arrive but if you really have been transparent with them, why will they try and frame you as the hero(unless you really were in which case you deserve it)?? However the team actually involved in the work must speak to the media even before their coordinator. The coordinator must only put in a few last lines regarding BM as a whole. This will also work as personal incentive. And if someone tries to misuse this, then BM will gain much more through it than the person involved. Also its important to keep note of the ground reality when the media lifts us high. :) ANiL On 2/19/06, satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I totally agree with Ankur. And in fact this dicussion about who should > talk to media , > this was to be raised sometime in the future if not now. > So now instead of pointing at faults , lets make strong policies not only > about dealing with media but in all respects. Even though our social service > with unconditional love.... lets make the organisation more professinoal and > bring discilpline.I am deeply worried that this group is grossly under > utilized as i see there are lot of young patriots joining the group > everyday. > > Satya > > > > > On 19/02/06, Ankur Gattani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi ppl, > > > > Media persons.. whoever they are. are as much elements of this society > > as you and I are! so applying a faceless allegation on them about being > > irresponsible or anything of that sort is not quite a judicious way of > > dealing with it. > > > > We have to get out of this 'us' and 'them' stance, if you understand > > what I mean. If India's to awaken truly, the waking up wont' happen in a > > closed room, isolating the 'others' from it. It has to be a mass effort > > across professional domains! We also need media persons aboard our mission.. > > and yes.. they have their allegiance to their bosses.. but not to such an > > extent that they lose their allegiance to the nation and the society > > altogether. > > > > As of now, lets have our website as our mouthpiece, of all our > > collectively taken up policies, plans of action etc. Media coverage, is a > > good means to our end.. and the regulations from our side are only supposed > > to take care that it doesn't become an end in itself! > > > > In both positive and negative ways.. lets realize what media is capable > > of doing, in this world of today. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ankur > > > > > > On 2/18/06, BhanuPrakash Singh < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear patriots, > > > I tend to agree with Sivabalan.Lets create the > > > organisation with sufficient number of active > > > members,lay down rule for functioning, boundaries of > > > operation. What I mean is that let BM become an > > > edifice which can be clearly perceived by any Indian > > > but which cant be easily demolished or corrupted. pl > > > remember the moment the self seeking people of this > > > country sense that our objective may come in their way > > > they will try to finish off using all resources at > > > their command. Therefore friends lets make BM stong > > > enough. Then we must make use of media to further our > > > aims. bhanu > > > > > > > > > --- Sivabalan Pandian <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Folks, > > > > > > > > I appreciate the initiative to reflect on the role > > > > of media towards the > > > > organisation growth and to leverage the power of > > > > media to enhance our > > > > progressive movement. We need to do things in > > > > perspective of our motto "We > > > > have only one passion - The rise of a Great Nation" > > > > ! > > > > I have always being a believer of the classic maxim > > > > "Action speaks louder > > > > than words", which should also be our current focus. > > > > We need to perform > > > > deeds for the upliftment of the society and as time > > > > passes by we will shall > > > > acquire the fame deserving of the act from the same > > > > media. > > > > > > > > We can leverage the media to our advantage only to > > > > the extend needed to > > > > create an awareness amongst our fellowmen not > > > > explicitly for the growth of > > > > the organisation at this juncture. If we cant > > > > totally avoid then we can feed > > > > them our motto and probably the above maxim and > > > > nothing beyond that. Else > > > > it will tantamount to tomtoming our dreams (which > > > > every Indian is good at > > > > doing) and will make us sound like an organisation > > > > of dreamers. > > > > > > > > I might be missing some of the crux of the > > > > organisation vision coz I have > > > > been a late entrant. > > > > So, if my thought is incoherent with that, kindly > > > > feel free to highlight it. > > > > > > > > Jai Hind ! > > > > Sivabalan S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/06, vishwanath shukla > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In favour of our organisation i'm starting a new > > > > thread on "the role of > > > > > print and electronic media in our organisation". > > > > > > > > > > "becoz their friendship and enmity both are > > > > equally costly !!" > > > > > > > > > > through this i would like to put few questions in > > > > front of u all------ > > > > > > > > > > (1) should we approach media by ourslves ? > > > > > (2) how should we deal with the media and their > > > > equally smart reporters > > > > > if they come > > > > > their own ?? What should be our course of > > > > action ? > > > > > (3) Can we adopt the following attitude, i.e. that > > > > we should do some > > > > > concrete activities > > > > > on social and cultural grounds for few > > > > years, without paying > > > > > attention to the > > > > > EXTERNAL HYPE, and then after we have done > > > > some solid homework, > > > > > we should > > > > > slowly and steadily start appearing in > > > > front of the nation > > > > > through media. > > > > > Or something you all suggest !!! > > > > > > > > > > ours this way of > > > > working then may help us > > > > > in consolidating our > > > > > policies,organisational structureand above > > > > all this will give us > > > > > AMPLE TIME TO > > > > > EVOVLE OUR BASIC PHILOSOPHY and then to > > > > consolidate it. > > > > > Since we are starting > > > > this sort of work for > > > > > the first time in the country, > > > > > so it is quite natural that we are bound to > > > > get some hype and > > > > > above all PEOPLE'S > > > > > FAITH. Thus this is our prime responsibility > > > > that we don't let > > > > > down their hopes and > > > > > and aspirations. > > > > > One thing more we must > > > > be catious enough, > > > > > to avoid fresh > > > > > controversies, because there may some FORCES > > > > ( like political > > > > > parties and other > > > > > mean minded fellows, AS NOW WE ARE DANGER TO > > > > THEIR EXISTENCE) > > > > > which may try to crush us. > > > > > BECAUSE THESE DAYS IDIOTS > > > > AND ENEMIES ARE > > > > > SMARTER !!. > > > > > > > > > > I request all BM members and office > > > > bearers ( i.e. moderatos > > > > > and team > > > > > coordinators ) to take an active part in the > > > > discussion, as this > > > > > helps us in finalising > > > > > our important policies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Smile; > > > > Siva > > > > > > > > ############################# > > > > ***** "We have only one passion. > > > > - The rise of a Great Nation" ***** > > > > ############################# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhanuprakash Singh > > > Chief Mechanical Engineer > > > West Central Railway,Jabalpur > > > India 482001office : 0091 7612677076 > > > mob 0091 9425153150 > > > crept into our intelligentsia and the powers-that-be, the fatalistic > > > belief that Indians cannot do anything new in India." > > > A.P.J.AbdulKalam > > > > > > Join us and be a part of the next Indian Revloution led by youth! > > > www.bharatudaymission.org > > > > > > > > > -- > "|| bRaHmAiVa sAtYaM ||" > > > -- Bye Anil ============================================================================== You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BM_discussion" group. 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