[uucdigest] Saturday, January 22 2000 Volume 03 : Number 097 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] E28: Power locks dead after dull knife surgery Re: [uuc] MX5 name [uuc] Motor Trend [uuc] Free Folia Tec brake caliper paint system - red [uuc] Do I hear a challenge [uuc] WTB: BBS RC wheels [uuc] <E46> Free brake duct backing plates Re: [uuc] Re: honost, what is that Re: [uuc] hand built "M" cars (was re: MX5) Re: [uuc] E28 oil color question Re: [uuc] Tickets to Indy F1 Re: [uuc] <E36> Battery Changing Tips? [uuc] [FS] - 1997 M3 Re: [uuc] E28: Power locks dead after dull knife surgery [uuc] This is actually [uuc] Research Question Re: [uuc] <WOB> German pillows ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:31:36 -0500 From: "Scottie Sharpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E28: Power locks dead after dull knife surgery Hi everyone, Almost finished with the fix-em-up tasks on the '85 535i I picked up a couple months ago. Just a few sizable tasks left like the A/C and the broken subframe steering box support (anyone ever encounter this??). The issue at hand this weekend is the power door locks. They aren't working. If I activate the driver's door lock from the inside, I can hear the relay quietly clicking in the box in the passenger footwell, but no door lock action. I should say that I removed a cheap alarm system from this car when I bought it. Most of the alarm wires were crimped onto the existing BMW wire looms above the driver kick panel and inside the front driver speaker compartment. My light indicator panel above the rear view mirror is also completely dead. I realize that, with the previous alarm system install, it could be anything preventing this from working, but I thought I would ask just in case anyone has encountered a similar door lock not working and/or light panel nonfunctional symtoms in their E28. Many thanks, Scottie Sharpe BTW, lots of stuff for sale, including some diamond jewelry and a hot rodded '88 Jeep Wagoneer at http://24.8.217.90/forsale Park the bimmer and get yourself a winter beater! *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:34:04 EST From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] MX5 name Why not call it the MSAV or something like that? We now know you don't have to have the series number after the M with the M Roadster and M Coupe. Just a thought. Steve '87 325iS >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [uuc] It's M5X Not MX5 (FYI) >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:08:45 EST > >Everyone, > >A slight correction....I started the thread, so now I can end it <g>...the >"proper" designation of the Motorsport Version of the new X5 is M5X, not >MX5...as I originally stated...I can't believe nobody corrected me on this. > >Now, it doesn't sound like a "Miata"! > >Ok, this thread is now officially OVER!!! Thank you! > >Happy ///Motoring, > >John Weese >BMW CCA #76646 >Nittany Bimmers Chapter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:59:24 -0500 From: "Timothy Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Motor Trend Even as a teenager in the 1980s I could tell that MT was shit. I much preferred C/D, though it went downhill after David E. Davis left. Then I switched to Automobile. Now I just go to Border's get a cup of coffee and read them all for free. The most interesting thing in MT used to be the TireRack and Discount Tire Direct ads. But I'd rather go their web sites and use the little 'see different wheels on YOUR car' thingies. OBMWC - I'd pay cash money for back copies of MT, C/D, R/T or Autombile that feature the E34 540i. Tim T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:48:12 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Free Folia Tec brake caliper paint system - red I bought a brake caliper painting kit for my M3 before I knew that it doesn't stand up to the heat generated by race pads. It is the good stuff - the $50 Folia Tec kit. You even get the wire brush I bought to clean the calipers (assuming I can still find it). There is only one kit available and it is absolutely free, including shipping in the US. To get it, you will need to go to our website and fill out a request form. Feel free to look around while you are there! Under the section that says enter your parts request, type in Folia Tec, followed by something - a joke, why you want the kit, etc. You will not be put on a mailing list or assaulted by any other devious scheme. The recipient of the kit will be selected at a random whim from all entries received by 5PM EST on Monday evening. Direct responses to this email will be ignored. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance and Recycled Parts Please include a copy of all correspondences. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:58:42 -0500 From: Gary Bossert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Do I hear a challenge I'll tell you what, let's keep it simple.... You bring your E36 330csl prepared however you want to prepare it. I'll bring my M3....the real one, you know the one Rosche actually paid attention to. Kershaw, seems like you are in the Carolinas, I'm in North Jersey. How about we split the difference say, Summit Point. - -Gary Bossert >Am I allowed to update my E-36 to evo specs too? If I can put cams and >header on it >then it would be like an HP m3 vs a JP M3 which is a big laugh >Also remember that I stated a stock E-36 needs to have the alignment >changed and run same >sized rubber all around, that makes a night/day difference in feel and lap >times. >Gary, I also extend the same invite to you, in fact I will pay for your >lapping at kershaw if you like and let you stay in the condo there for >free (robbies idea) >the loser also loads the trunk of his car with Turbo dog or Amber bock. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:01:42 -0800 From: "Rob Hatrak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB: BBS RC wheels Does anyone have any (or know of someone who does) BBS RC wheels for sale? I have the 17x8s on my M3 now and would like some on the MB E320 as well. 18x8.5 would be cool, or another set of 17x8s would do. Thanks for any leads you may have for me. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:15:42 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E46> Free brake duct backing plates We have designed brake ducting systems for several models of BMW. We now need to get a set together for the E46 328 and M3. So...we need to borrow a car. You can bring it to our shop in Radford, VA (SW part), or we can arrange to meet you at a convenient location - a parking lot will work. We will need about an hour with the car. During this point, we will jack the car up, remove the wheels, remove the rotors, and cut away the factory splash guard. We will then computer model a plate to replace the splash guard that will force air into the inside of the rotor to cool it under track conditions. For the generous use of a car, we will send the owner a test set of plates and then a finished set in either blue powdercoated or a special polished stainless finish, completely free. If you would be willing to help, please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance and Recycled Parts Please include a copy of all correspondences. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:27:29 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: honost, what is that I've got to side with Gario on this one. Ben Liaw's E30 M3 (now gone) was relatively stock. We had a FATT at Summit and there was a new SVT Cobra in my run group (and I think the owner may be on the UUC Digest to verify this story). Had a lot of fun with him, leaving him through the corners so badly that he was just able to catch up by turn one again... only to leave him again through 2-5. I did give him a point-by eventually as I wanted to see what the other way 'round felt like. Yes, I filled his mirrors everywhere except the front straight, turn 10 to 1 when his hp advantage let him pull ahead. Considering his brakes (or lack thereof), I would catch up by turn 2. Keep in mind the M3 was on street tires (Dunlop SP8000) and I am *not* a seasoned track veteran, I can count my track days on the fingers of two hands. The Cobra driver and I had a good laugh about it afterward. He exclaimed "man, I couldn't keep up with you in the corners at all, but your wimpy 4-cylinder was no match on the straights!" So what... driving perfectly straight is the boring part of the track. I told him I thought Ford could do a little better given 10 more years of development! His reponse, "Oh, just wait until I do the suspension in this thing." I replied, "Yeah, do the suspension - it might be almost as good as the stock suspension in this old M3." "Yeah," he replied, "but I've got a lot more motor." "Sure, now. Let's see how well that car runs in 10 years. IF it's running." You pay for more than raw power in any BMW, especially the E30 M3. You pay for the engineering and durability. As far as turbo Eclipses go, when was the last time you saw an old Eclipse? They just don't last. You do see a few around 5 years old... usually smoking like an old Merc diesel. As a veteran of a number of Japanese sports cars, I think it's safe to say that much of the '80s and early '90s models are designed to be disposable. Some free advice: don't go "pink slips" against Gary - it's a sucker bet. - - Rob '88 M5 Dinan Turbo grocery-getter (I actually got groceries a few days ago and chuckled as I loaded the trunk) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Uh, who's smoking something? What cars half the price in 1988 could > >out-perform the E30 M3? > > um most awd talons,eclipse v8 pony cars, number of hot hatches from japan. > I am talking street driving, not pure race track. the v8 cars would be so far > ahead of the e-30 that they could get away with braking half mile ahead of corner > and coasting thru it. I am not comparing them on a race track. <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:27:29 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] hand built "M" cars (was re: MX5) Well spoken. Chris J G > they'll realize they've > re-invented the '70s - big beasts that are dangerous and suck up fuel. Trucks > get more relaxed bumper and fuel-consumption standards because they were > considered necessary work vehicles. Now that they're "cars", they need to be > held to the same standards. > - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:36:14 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] E28 oil color question Really? When the oil is white, what amount of water is mixed in? I would have thought a lot. Anyway, to sort it out. Send an oil sample for analysis. If the oil cotains glycol, then the water comes from your rad, you must pull the head at the least. If there is no glycol, then it is condensation and all you need is an Italian tune up. Chris J G > It's most likely that the engine isn't reaching optimum operating > temperature. > Looking at the oil cap I discovered that > she's got a nice milky white color in the oil. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:41:47 -0800 (PST) From: wji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Tickets to Indy F1 I tried calling the indy ticket office today but couldn't get through to confirm USGP ticket status. A few months ago I called and was told that you would know your ticket assignment in January. Hopefully next week!!! - -Bill Isaacson >Michael Weishaar wrote: > >My buddy said that he hasn't heard anything about the tickets he >ordered, but he said that the check he wrote for them has been cashed. >He hasn't gotten any notification, but sounds like a good sign to me. >He said they probably wouldn't send out the tickets until a couple of >months before the race anyway. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:54:24 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Battery Changing Tips? Surely the little tube would blow off first? > I had the battery in my 325is explode, subsequent > information suggests the tube was blocked. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 01:05:52 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] [FS] - 1997 M3 Cosmos (metallic) black with gray leather interior; factory options include forged Motorsport five-spoke wheels, on-board computer, cruise control, sunroof, plus tinted windows, remote entry-alarm, Alpine CD/tuner and wired at the visor for Valentine and Escort; new Michelin Pilot Sport tires; 30,000 well-maintained (documented) miles; one year/20,000 miles left on warranty; $36,000 OBO. Malcolm Davidow Dallas, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:28:22 -0800 (PST) From: Antony Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E28: Power locks dead after dull knife surgery and then Scottie Sharpe said: > > Almost finished with the fix-em-up tasks on the '85 535i I picked up a > couple months ago. Just a few sizable tasks left like the A/C and the broken > subframe steering box support (anyone ever encounter this??). in fact, my '85 535i had one side of the subframe steering box support break just a couple months ago, around 210k miles. as i was backing out of a parking space, there was a muffled pop and suddenly straight no longer corresponded to a centered steering wheel. i had a shop weld it back together. they charged me about 1 hour labor, and it's been fine for the last couple months/thousand miles. the alignment's still a bit off; i think it must have been aligned with the mount partially broken. - --antony ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:34:49 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] This is actually pretty funny - not PC, but pretty funny: http://www.speedmagazine.com/stories/entries/14195.shtml Don't flame me - I'm just passin' it along.. :-) =============================================== Don Eilenberger JMP#1 Spring Lk Hts, NJ, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] =============================================== "Don't wrestle with pigs in the mud.. the pig enjoys it and you just get dirty.." =============================================== You're absolutely right, and I apologize --Darryl Richman NJ Shore BMW Riders Web Page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:38:52 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Research Question Does anyone know how to measure fuel injection pulses? I would like to be able to connect a laptop directly to the OBDC connection port if possible and collect the data for fuel consumption measurement. If this is not practical are there any other suggestions where I might access this data? This is for a ChE research project. How does BMW measure fuel consumption? Any insight is greatly appreciated. Bill Edwards ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:37:03 -0500 From: Dave Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOB> German pillows >>John Firestone wrote: >>My vote for the true German (or European) Meisterwerk >>would either be the Eider-down duvet, which reduces the >>time to make the bed to well-nigh zip, or 1600 rpm >>washing machines, which *thoroughly* clean a load of >>clothes in a thimble-full of water. (Well, almost.) >Ellie MacDougall responded: >My vote for German Meisterwerk goes to the ivory carvers >of Erbach, up in the Odenwald east of Darmstadt. They've >been doing it for more than a quarter millennium. A mere Quarter Millenium? Pish Tosh! ;) The Weihenstephan Brewery in Freising, Bavaria has been brewing my vote for the German Meisterwerk for almost an Entire Millenium, since 1040. Alteste Brauerei Der Welt, as it says on the bottle. Of course, it's better when it's fresh. I used to bring it home in the trunk of my Euro E21 <OBMWC>. Perhaps some of you will join me in hoisting a millenial Mass or three in Freising in 2040. You can bet it'll be a Party! Cheers!! Dave Meyer 99 328is 94 K75RT Lorton VA ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #97 ************************* _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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