[uucdigest] Saturday, January 22 2000 Volume 03 : Number 098 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Re: RADAR GUNS Re: [uuc] BMW marketing goodness- was driving w/o coolant Re: [uuc] BMW marketing goodness- was driving w/o coolant RE: [uuc] This is actually RE: [uuc] This is actually [uuc] Re: the truth is out there- somewhere Re: [uuc] Re: So you think you're rich? [uuc] Re: truth [uuc] E28 M5 Air Intake Plenum Removal [uuc] <E30> Fuel tank leaking [uuc] Measuring corner weights [uuc] Re: tollboth based tickets - in France, yes [uuc] re : toll booth tickets in France Re: [uuc] Re: the truth is out there- somewhere ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:38:14 -0500 From: "Curt Kiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: RADAR GUNS Back in # 93 Brian said something about Ka-band radar guns that didn't sound right. I don't want to start a thread here but you don't really want to think this is the way it works. >That trick does not work any more. New KA band Radar will give speed of >fastest moving vehicle! >Brian (technology sucks) Jacobs Brian is correct about that trick not working. The truck doesn't "throw off the radar" readings. For X-band (9 Ghz) the radar gun just has the truck as a target and not your 325. X-band is not used much anymore due to the large emission cone signature. Ka-band (30-40 Ghz) is the stuff for traditional emitted radar. It's emission cone is like a pencil. That's why it's used for weapons guidance systems. The Ka-band radar gives the speed of the target. Not the fastest target but the target it's bouncing off of. The cops love it because they can often pick people out of multi-lane highways. Much harder to defeat in court because of that. True enough buddy....technology sucks for us speeders! Curt Kiser BMW CCA Tidewater Virginia 88' M5 Sharked and tweaked ----nice radar cross section....&#*% 86' 325 Wifemobile ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:16:52 -0800 From: "Brad Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW marketing goodness- was driving w/o coolant From: Cagann, Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The Catera is a laughable automobile...supposedly 'European Design'..heehee. It is, because it is a rebadged Opel! Brad Houser '99 M3 Cabrio Estorilblau ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:22:38 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW marketing goodness- was driving w/o coolant The kick in the butt is that the Opel Omega is a very nice sedan - to bad Cadillac "Americanized" it and turned it into a slug. - --- Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Cagann, Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Catera is a laughable automobile...supposedly 'European > Design'..heehee. > > It is, because it is a rebadged Opel! ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:48:46 -0500 From: Mark Borchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] This is actually The "Rice-Boy vs. Neon-Nerd" story was "oh-so-juvey", however that same web site had an interesting piece on John Hennessey's (Viper tuner) observations about how he pitted a 450HP Viper GTS against the new M5, and was...surprised!?! Check it out: http://www.speedmagazine.com/stories/entries/14242.shtml Mark Borchik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:30:39 -0800 From: "Kim Melby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] This is actually If you thought that Speedmagazine link was good, read this. It was passed around a few months ago. The Great Race It all began back in 97 when I finally convinced my parents to buy my dream car...A 78 Ford Pinto...The Pimpo we called it. Before I continue my story, let me tell you about the Pinto. It's a rust brown 78, with 4 spare tires, a 1.05 liter inline 4 with straight pipes that drag on the ground, and a cowl induction hood. I was hoping to get a turbocharger for it, but I have to wait until I get a bit higher of a budget. Anyway, it was a clear, yet cool, Saturday night. I had just come home from babysitting and boy was I exhausted. I called up my friend Skip to have a little fun, for he had just gotten his own fat ride. We spent hours arguing about whose ride would be better to go cruisin with. We finally decided that my pinto was better than his Huffy, though we could probably carry a lot more chicks on his pegs. We decided to cruise to 7 Eleven for a couple slurpies and nachos (With chili of course). After about 3 or 4 hours of chillin at 7 Eleven we decided to head home and watch reruns of Gidget back at my pad. After stopping to retrieve the exhaust pipe which fell off, we came upon a red light, with straight open road for at least 2 miles ahead of us. Barney Sings the Hits was blaring on my stereo as we waited. Suddenly, up along side us pulls up a cherry of a ride...An 82 white Ice Cream Truck...I knew right away that this was an opportunity I couldn�t pass up and immediately dropped the Pinto into Neutral and gave it some gas. Vrooo... spurt... spurt... oooo.. *backfire* ..ooo ...spurt...oooom, it hummed as clouds of noxious gas billowed out from the exhaust. My would be competitor immediately caught wind of the backfiring rumble and noxious gas which by now was seeping into the cab of his truck. He knew what was up. This Mexican was no amateur by any means and after a few quick coughs he let his puppy purr. It was on now. In a few short seconds the light would turn green and we'd be off, tires screeching, down the street in a race for bragging rights. I turned towards him and cracked a wicked grin, knowing full well that in a few short moments he'd be eating my dust. He responded by turning the Ice Cream Truck music on. The high pitched music sent a chill down my spine, for I knew that he would not back down. I glanced to my right to anticipate the oncoming change of lights.... Yellow.... I held the clutch down until I almost pushed it through the firewall(literally) and let the RPM's roll..100, 200, 225, 226 RPMS, as I held the petal to the metal. Red... I locked my hands onto the steering wheel. GREEN! Instantly I dropped the clutch and after a few bogs and sputters of the engine I was off. My competitor had beaten me off the line and was already crossing the intersection just as I entered the crosswalk on my side. No worries I thought...Ill catch him in second. As I reached the halfway mark of the intersection I could barely see his taillights shining some 1/8 of a mile in front of me. I dropped into second and stalled just as I rolled across the crosswalk on the far end of the intersection. "SHIT!" I yelled as I knew that this may hinder my chances of actually beating this guy. He was good. Oh yes, he was very good. After about 5 seconds of turning the ignition I told Skip to get out and push while I drop the clutch. By now the Ice Cream Truck was at least 1/4 of a mile ahead of me and blazing his way to victory just as we finally got the car running again. Now we were hot on his trail. I could smell victory as I noticed us actually catching him. I checked the in-dash clock as it read 12:24 pm. "Almost bed time" I said to Skip as we hit third and were cruising at about 20 mph. But we were catching him! I glanced down at my clock again as it read 12:30 p.m. and wiped a bead of sweat which was dripping down my forehead. Skip began jumping like mad as we were now almost even with the Ice Cream truck. I knew that if I could hit 30 mph there was no chance of his victory. As we took the lead we looked over and laughed exuberantly at our newest victim because we knew that victory was ours. There was no way he could catch us as we finally moved a car length ahead of him. As he looked over at us we couldn�t help but cheer at our victory while he handed the kid his ice cream cone. With a line that long for ice cream victory was ours. It was right then and there that I realized how awesome my Pinto truly was. I know someday I will probably get beaten, but for now I�m content dwelling on the near future which is sure to hold countless victories. Kenny 78 Rusty Ford Pinto P.S. I also have a question about finding parts for my car. I've been looking around everywhere for training wheels. I've heard they give the car added support but all my searches have come up empty. If any of you have any info, please mail me I borrowed my wife's Geo Metro last night. One liter of raw power, 3 cylinders of asphalt-tearing terror on thirteen-inch rims. It's stock, alright, nothing done to it, but it pushes the barely 2000 pounds of Metro around with AUTHORITY. I'm always catching mopeds and 18-wheelers by surprise... I was headed back from Baskin Robbins with my manly triple-latte cappuccino blast ("No Cinnamon, ma'am, I take it BLACK"), when I stopped at a streetlight. As the Metro throbbed its throaty idle around me, I sipped my bold beverage and wiped the white froth my stiff upper lip. I was minding my own business, but then I heard a rev from the next lane. I turned, made eye contact, then let my eyes trace over the competition. Ford Festiva -- a late model, could be trouble. Low profile tires, curb feelers, and schoolbus-yellow paint. Yep, a hot rod, for sure. The howl of his motor snapped my reverie, and I looked back into the driver's eyes, nodded, then blipped my own throttle. As I tugged on my driving gloves and slipped on my sunglasses (gotta look cool to be fast, and I am *damn* cool, hence...), the night was split with the sound of seven screaming cylinders... Then the light turned... I almost had him out of the hole, my three pounding cylinders thrusting me at least a millimeter back into my seat, as smoke pouring from my front right tire... my unlimited slip differential was letting me down! I saw in the corner of my eyes, a yellow snout gaining, and I heard the roar of his four cylinders. He slung by me, right front wheel juddering against the pavement, and he flashed me a smile as his .7 extra liters of motor stretched its legs. I kept my foot gamely in it, though, waiting for the CHECK ENGINE light to blink on in the one-gauge (no tachometer here!) instrument panel. I saw a glimpse of chrome under his bumper, and knew the ugly truth... He was running a custom exhaust -- probably a 2-into-1 dual exhaust, maybe even cutouts! Damn his hot-rod soul! The old lady passing us on the crosswalk cast a dirty look in our boy-racer direction. Yet still I persisted, with my three pumping pistons singing a heady high-pitched song, wound fully out. Though only a few handfuls of seconds had passed, we were nearing the crosswalk at the other side of the intersection, and I heard the note of his engine change as he made his shift to second, and I saw his grin in his rearview mirror fade as he missed the shift! I rocketed by, shifting, and nursed the clutch gently in to keep from bogging, keeping my motor spinning hot and pulling me ahead, now trailing a cloud of stinking clutch smoke. Not ready to give up so easily, he left his foot in it, revving, and I heard one wheel *almost* chirp as he finally found second and dropped the clutch. We careened over the crosswalk, now going at least 15 miles per hour. A bicyclist passed us, but intent on the race as we were, neither of us batted an eye. He pulled slowly abreast of me, and neck and neck, we made the shift to third, the scream of motors deafening all pedestrians within a five foot circle. He nosed ahead as we passed 30 miles an hour, then eased in front of me, taunting, as we shifted into fourth. I was staring up the dual 6" chrome tips of his exhaust, snarling, my cappuccino forgotten, as he lifted a little to take the next corner. I saw my opportunity, and counting on the innate agility of my trusty steed, I pulled wide into the number two lane and kept my foot buried in carpet. Slowly, I inched around him, feeling my Metro roll slowly to the left as I came abreast in the midst of this gradual sweeping turn. I felt the Geo ease onto its suspension stops, and felt the right rear wheel slowly leave the ground - no matter, though, because my drive wheels, up front, were pulling me through the corner, and around the Festiva. The Ford driver beat his wheel in rage as my wife's car eased past him on the outside, my P165/54R13's screaming in protest, as we raced to the next light. We coasted down, neck-and neck, to the red light. I tightened my driving gloves, ready for another round, when this WIMP in the next car meekly flipped his turn signal and made a right. Chevy (Suzuki) superiority reigns!!! I drove off sipping my masculine drink, awash in my sheer virility, looking for other unwitting targets.... Perhaps a Yugo, or maybe even a VW Vanagon! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:20:51 -0500 From: "Gary M. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: the truth is out there- somewhere Damn people, chill out and quit taking stuff out of context. I NEVER SAID ANY OF THOSE CARS WOULD COMPARE TO AN E-30 ON ANY TRACK. I was only making a point of how much an E-30 M3 cost new back when there were other somewhat fun cars to be had for less money. NOT WHAT IS GOING TO LAST LONGER or any other shit like that. Geez I am a pure bmw freak, nothing else compares so dont even go there making an argument about cobra pos on a track vs M3. My whole arg. is about the E-36 being a REAL M3, btw my engine was handbuilt by Motorsports as were all LTWs. Gary I only mentioned kershaw because we are putting on an event there and I could hook you up, IF you have a racing lic. Let me know what race you are going to enter that 318i with the funny looking fender flares and wing. haha just kidding but I am would love to race you in a real race, no driving school point by junk, sure your hand would get tired. Mike I really love challenges, that was why the LTW was raced BONE STOCK haha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:17:23 PST From: "wiranto hardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: So you think you're rich? >From: "Li, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [uuc] Re: So you think you're rich? >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:18:00 -0800 > > >Yes, I know about that one. When I go back every once in a while, I'm > >reminded about this silliness when the flight attendent on the plane > >tells everybody that any chewing/bubble gum will confiscated. Plus, > >the customs still check you and there's even a police dog... > >actually, the dog is used to sniff for drugs. BTW, the penalty for > >first time durg offenders is DEATH by hanging. No kiddin'. > > >BMW content - I wonder how much I could sell my 320is in S'pore for? > >Forget about owning a car there, its OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive! I'm scheduled >moving over to Singapore and even with a decent transportation allowance, I >don't think I can afford buying a Hundai, let alone BMW. Its doesn't >justify >paying three times the cost as its here in US to the pocket of the gov't. >BTW, I did smuggle, um, I mean I forget to declare at the custom, a >family-sized >pack of gum while I went over to Singapore on my last trip. > >Is there any digest member here living in Singapore?? Although I'm not >going >to >buy any car while I'm there, I did hope I can meet some bimmerphiles and >swap >stories about our beloved car. > > >Regards, >Peter Li >NJ Chapter > > Hi, I used to live in S'pore for 5 years before. I really miss S'pore, it's a nice clean city. I saw a lot of BMW, but you could actually count by your two hands for the modified bimmer. I think the reason is because parts is expensive there and you need to bring the car for inspections. 'cause I had my dad's Mercedes lowered and was told to raise it back when we brought the car for inspection. It was ridiculous, 'cause the car is not low-low, it had like a finger gap on front and rear with 18" wheels. I guess it's just that their law is too strict. Other than the law, rain and expensive living cost, S'pore is a nice place to live in. Hope you will enjoy your stay there. And don't forget about Bimmer:) WH ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:39 -0500 From: "Gary M. Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: truth Hold a sec, pulling my head out of my ass. Ok Gary, now I remember who you are, fellow club racer and mod E-30 were you planning on bringing a bazooka to a knife fight? I am referring to stock based cars not pure track cars with more than evo cams etc... and E-36s still seem to be ahead of you in that monster. the challenge is still on, find a stock E-30 or I will work something out with stickley. I would prefer bone stock E-36 vs E-30 pink slips. I have been wanting a E-30 M3, really. mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:10 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E28 M5 Air Intake Plenum Removal Hi Everyone, I'm in the process of replacing all of my coolant hoses and need to remove the air intake plenum on this S38 engine. Anyone have a tip on how to remove the hose that connects the bottom of the Intake Plenum with the crankcase? Mine is original (has no clamps), and I'm afraid to break it when I twist it off the fittings...it looks like it may be easier to remove the end that fits on ths crankcase (easier to see and get to)...anyone done this before? Many thanks (think Spring!) John Weese BMW CCA#76646 Nittany Bimmers Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:49:22 GMT From: "John G.Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Fuel tank leaking My mate just bought an '85 320i with 124K. Pretty nice car and the price was good. It has a small hole about 1mm in diameter in the middle of a small rust bubble at the seam between the top and bottom halves. If it were my car I'd replace the tank. My mate is on a budget and is curious to know of any easy patches. I'm nervous about the grinding down the metal to apply a patch in case a spark ignites fuel vapour! I know I need to remove the exhaust to fit a new tank. Haynes and Chilton (equally useless) don't specify whether the drive shaft has to come out too. All advice welcome. - -- Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], John G.Burns B.Eng, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:55:26 -0800 From: "Dane Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Measuring corner weights Hi, I looking for a cheap way to measure corner weights. I know that there are a lot of specialized scales for this but I just can see spending >$1000 for one. Is there another way to do this? Are there shops that can measure this? thanks -- dane '98 M3c '93 325i ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:17:37 GMT From: "daniel desmet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: tollboth based tickets - in France, yes I spent two months in France this summer and I hauled ass from toll booth to toll booth. I would get up to 250 km/hr if the highway was clear and straight . I never had a problem. My route was usually from Marseille to Monte Carlo, along the Riveira. Later, Dan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:28:49 GMT From: "daniel desmet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re : toll booth tickets in France Sorry everybody I was wacked when I said I was traveling at 250 km/hr, I meant about 190 km max, Later, Dan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:32:59 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: the truth is out there- somewhere - ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: the truth is out there- somewhere > Damn people, > > chill out and quit taking stuff out of context. I NEVER SAID ANY OF THOSE > CARS WOULD COMPARE TO AN E-30 ON ANY TRACK. > I was only making a point > of how much an E-30 M3 cost new back when there were other somewhat fun > cars to be had for less money. NOT WHAT IS GOING TO LAST LONGER or any > other shit like that. Nope, but you made comparisons on value. If the $18K car is dead in 10 years, is it as good a value as a $35K car that is still worth $15K? Is it still as much fun when it's rusting in the junkyard? That's all that I was pointing out. > Geez I am a pure bmw freak, nothing else compares > so dont even go there making an argument about cobra pos on a track vs > M3. That was pointed toward your argument about how good a value a big American V8 car is/was. 10 years newer, not as much fun, and costs... hmmm... almost as much as an E36 M3! > My whole arg. is about the E-36 being a REAL M3, btw my engine > was handbuilt by Motorsports as were all LTWs. I never got into that argument. Besides, your LTW engine isn't hand-built. It's hand-PICKED from regular production line engines because it produced more power (unless I'm totally wrong, which I might be). - - Rob ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #98 ************************* _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
