[uucdigest] Wednesday, January 26 2000 Volume 03 : Number 118 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Re: <m30> motor randomly cuts out Re: [uuc] RE: Making a newer BMW handle/feel like a 'classic' BMW [uuc] Re: S4 vs M3 RE: [uuc] Airbag light came on RE: [uuc] X-brace follow-up [uuc] Re: Ranting and Raving about Uninsured Motorist [uuc] Tires for E30 RE: [uuc] E46 ix [uuc] 1996-1998 E36 M3 springs needed! Re: [uuc] Do I hear a challenge RE: [uuc] X-brace follow-up Re: [uuc] E30 gasoline smells [uuc] Re: [uuc] Ranting And Raving About Uninsured Motorist [uuc] RE: E28--535i part throttle stumble ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:54:41 -0800 From: richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: <m30> motor randomly cuts out opps...forgot.. the old rotor... i have seen new ones go open...a quirk ...but some thing to think about... i had a car towed to me after another service centre had do replace this that...etc...etc...presented my new customer his bill with a none running car...and a request to replace the ecu... best regards, and good luck richard, scot exiled in texas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:18:54 -0800 From: Eric Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Making a newer BMW handle/feel like a 'classic' BMW Don't recall this being mentioned, but one thing that gives E30s (don't know about E28s) their handling traits is the semi-trailing arm rear suspension, which is shared with the 318ti and Z3-series. Food for thought? Eric Liu '89 325is (M3 springs, Bilstein Sports, Alpinas, soon to be Sharked!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:08:26 -0500 From: Gary Bossert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: S4 vs M3 Ray, I won't dispute what you say about weight and hp but I'm having a damn fun time driving the S4 especially in this weather we have in NJ. :-) On a dry race track there is no doubt the new M3 will probably kill an S4 but I bought my car for everyday driving and that means bad weather as well as good. I also have to drive up a mountain to get to my house so there is no way I'm even considering an E46 M3. I also doubt that the new M3 will be under $55,000 once it's optioned. That's $16,000 more than the S4 and $16k will buy a damn nice E30 M3 these days for the nice days and track days. If you get a chance to drive the S4 I think you will be impressed. Although BMW is still the Ultimate Driving Machine I think the boys from Ingolstadt are getting closer. - -Gary Bossert BMW's and Audi's >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:49:46 -0600 >From: "Ray Kang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] S4 Vs. M3 > >Although not based on driving an S4 or an M3, but rather on driving my Audi >V8 Quattro and M635CSI, I've got to believe the new M3 will be worth the >premium. All wheel drive takes some of the fun out of driving, and lower >mass coupled with higher horsepower generally translates to better handling. >(Hmmm a dealer a mile away from me has two Honda S2000s for sale) > >Interestingly enough, with my toys (BMW M635CSi, Lotus Esprit SE, Kawasaki >ZX-11C) put to sleep for the winter, what I most want to take out for a >drive right now is the BMW. > >Ray ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:45:47 -0800 From: "Jon D. Holder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Airbag light came on When this happened to me it ended up being a sensor on one of the rear seatbelts that went bad. My BMW dealer replaced it under warranty. Jon 98 M3c - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Tan Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Airbag light came on Hi all, My 325i airbag light came on while I was driving home from work today. I was just driving normal speed and didn't hit any pothole or hit anything. Any idea what might have cause it? Is the car still safe to drive until I bring it in to the dealer to check it out? Does this happens often on the E36s? Any help would be apperciated? '93 325i __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:53:57 -0500 From: "Heckendorf, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] X-brace follow-up Joe, What everyone is talking about is to NOT put the original straight cross bar in the holes further back after putting the X-Brace in it's original location (effectively having TWO cross bars)... This could amount to too much support structure for the engine/tranny to break through on their way to the ground during a severe impact and thus they would have no choice but to come join you in the passenger compartment. Dave - -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:48:14 -0800 From: "Joe H. Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] X-brace follow-up <snip> On a related note, I read several times that the original straight cross bar should NOT be moved back behind the x-brace as this may not allow for proper engine/trans displacement in a frontal accident. While under the car, I took a long look at this and I just didn't see that happening. The same bar mounted in the original location is perfectly OK, but mounted 2 inches rearward isn't??? I certainly could be wrong on this but..... Any thoughts, opinions, condemnation, accusations, or rants on this one? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:01:12 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Ranting and Raving about Uninsured Motorist "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >We exchanged insurance information ect. I also got the Vin # off >the car, plate # and car description. Since it was just rear bumper damage >and I had all the info I needed I decided not to call the police. However, >after he left I decided he could have been lying and called the police. Why was the information wrong? Did he have fake paperwork or did you trust him to supply valid info? Wrong thing to do. I first memorize car, plate and driver before I get all their paperwork; DL, Reg and Ins Card. I have been the victim of a few H & Rs so I'm a little paranoid about this subject. Dennis Jeong 95 518 tds 87 744 http://members.aol.com/dennis6733/540.html GGC Test Engineer for hire, inquire within. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 02:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Tires for E30 - --0-424238335-948882025=:20916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, all. What I do NOT want to do is start a mile long string of responses to a topic that has already been covered. So feel free to email me privately. I need new tires for my 1992 325iC, very, very soon. Problem is, most of the good performance tires are not available in my 14" wheel size. Anyone have any suggestions? I shall keep the rims stock. Thanks very much. - -Chuck H. - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. - --0-424238335-948882025=:20916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <P>Hello, all. What I do NOT want to do is start a mile long string of responses to a topic that has already been covered. So feel free to email me privately. I need new tires for my 1992 325iC, very, very soon. Problem is, most of the good performance tires are not available in my 14" wheel size. Anyone have any suggestions? I shall keep the rims stock. Thanks very much.</P> <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fffff0">-Chuck H.</FONT></P> <br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> Talk to your friends online with <a href="http://im.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Messenger</a>. - --0-424238335-948882025=:20916-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:24:13 -0500 From: "Money, Jack (J.J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E46 ix Gary et al, <<Don't get me wrong, the new ix does peak my interest, I just want to see if it measures up dollar for dollar.>> I agree and the fact that they are talking wagon 323 is fine for me....that's exactly what the wife wants! I must say though I think they should offer a coupe or sedan model with the 2.8 or 3.0 such that "enthusiasts" such as ourselves might have a crack at it. My sister has been looking at the Audi Avant quite a bit and she says although she likes the car a lot it's very small inside.....of course she is looking for some interior capacity, hence the wagon vs. sedan. For utilitarian purposes if BMW can offer a good amount of interior space this will be one improvement. As for pricing, the iX was not very "popular" mainly due to its pricing. I have the original window sticker for my car. It was purchased in December of 1988 with basically no options (iX's came fairly well equipped but nothing special) and it stickered for almost $32k! That's quite a bit for a car NOW but man that was 11+ years ago. Don't get me wrong...I think it's a great car as some of you may realize from my posts but that's a lotta bucks, and AWD is nothing too rare these days. BMW better be very careful on the pricing. <<Hmmm, wonder if the 3.2 will drop in with the AWD gear?>> Maybe they learned something from the previous generation...a la no S14 fitment. ; ) Regards, Jack Money Motor City Chapter iX Registry '89 iX ----> Sharked! M20, no S14 '01 332iX ----> Yeah, sure, right around the corner E30 M3 ----> WTB http://skumwerks.net/e30m3.htm Still looking for some S14 power! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or reply http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:29:26 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] 1996-1998 E36 M3 springs needed! HI!...i need springs from a 96-98 M3...specfically rear ones, but i'd be willing to buy the front and rear set for a reasonable price...i'm in nj, so if anyone in jersey has their stock springs hanging around....let me know! thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:27:44 -0500 From: Thomas Philip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Do I hear a challenge If this happens out at Summit I'd love to know when -- might be a fun spectator event. tom philip '94 325is -- not a real M car by any stretch. At 11:58 PM -0500 1/21/00, you wrote: > I'll tell you what, let's keep it simple.... > You bring your E36 330csl prepared however you want to prepare it. > I'll bring my M3....the real one, you know the one Rosche actually >paid attention to. > Kershaw, seems like you are in the Carolinas, I'm in North Jersey. > How about we split the difference say, Summit Point. > -Gary Bossert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:34:01 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] X-brace follow-up At 3:53 AM -0500 1/26/2000, Heckendorf, David wrote: >What everyone is talking about is to NOT put the original straight cross bar >in the holes further back after putting the X-Brace in it's original >location (effectively having TWO cross bars)... This could amount to too >much support structure for the engine/tranny to break through on their way >to the ground during a severe impact and thus they would have no choice but >to come join you in the passenger compartment. The E36 convertibles only have the single X-brace, not both. In addition, from http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/e36/suspension/e36_xbrace_important_info.html - --- begin forwarded text --- >From digest.v7.n916 Sat Jan 10 01:07:39 1998 From: Bob Stommel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 22:17:55 Subject: X-brace info For those of you wringing your hands over the safety issues of using an X-brace, here is the explanation from Eric Wensberg of BMW Motorsport: the X-brace will still allow the engine to travel downward under the drivetrain tunnel in a frontal collision so long as you have REMOVED the original straight crossbar. DO NOT simply relocate the original crossbar to the rearward bolt holes if you are installing the X-brace. The original crossbar MUST be removed. Bob Stommel Hoosier Chapter Indianapolis - --- end forwarded text --- ...steven <x-braced> schlossman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:04:39 -0500 From: "David Larocque - ColorImage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 gasoline smells >There is a strong smell of gasoline in my 89 325ia >after I fill it up. Is this a common problem? First thing to do is take a peak underneath and see if you can see any wet spots on the underbody. Make sure the hoses into and out of your fuel filter are tight and the tube from the filler tube to the tank are all okay. When I first got my e30 the top filler tube had to be replaced on my car because it was rusted. I was told it is rather rare for this to happen but it might be worth checking. More recently my e30 has rusted around the hose inlet where the rubber hose attaches to the tank. Its not really bad but If I fill it up I can defiantly smell gas. I asked my mechanic about it and he said it is common on alot of the e30'e in the rust belt. If the corrosion isnt too bad drain and remove the tank and have it sealed and recoated. If i the rust is bad the tank will have to be replaced. Dont weld it! '87 325 209k '00 GTI Vr6 - on the boat soon David Larocque ColorImage Canada Inc 416-955-9636 x 736 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:04:04 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Sticky air door? Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My 1988 535is developed a bad stumble at part throttle today. The more load on the engine (the more I push the gas pedal), the worse it stumbles. At wide open throttle (WOT), it runs fine. This problemmanifests itself all the way up to 4500 RPM. I did not try driving at engine speeds higher than that due to the horrific road conditions in NJ tonight. Also, the car seems to idle a little rougher than usual, but my car always idles like crap so the rougher idle may not be related. > > > > The problem can't be fuel or ignition related because the car runs fine at WOT. Which sensors does the ECU reference ap part throttle but ignore at WOT? > > > > Ed "Dirt Tracking in the Snow" Walters > > > > > > ------------------------- > > Ed Walters > > Team DFL > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1988 535is > > 1976 2002 > > http://home.earthlink.net/~teamdfl > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ ____ > > Get your Free GO Network Email address at http://mail.go.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:45:55 -0500 From: "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Ranting And Raving About Uninsured Motorist Dennis Jeong writes: >>Why was the information wrong? Did he have fake paperwork or did you trust him to supply valid info?<< Fake paperwork and his drivers license was an old one with his old address. Good thing the vin# and license plate were not fake. Henry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:47:14 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: E28--535i part throttle stumble Just off the top of my head (which isn't worth a lot, so take this into account - it's also early and I'm on my first cuppa..): Captain Brakefade asks: >I apologize for the cross-posting but I desperately need to fix the problem by tommorrow morning as I have to drive from NJ to GA tommorrow. > >My 1988 535is developed a bad stumble at part throttle today. The more >load on the engine (the more I push the gas pedal), the worse it stumbles. >At wide open throttle (WOT), it runs fine. This problemmanifests itself >all the way up to 4500 RPM. I did not try driving at engine speeds higher >than that due to the horrific road conditions in NJ tonight. Also, the >car seems to idle a little rougher than usual, but my car always idles >like crap so the rougher idle may not be related. Just did started today? In NJ? With the snow/ice crap? Let's start thinking of weather conditions. Car parked outside? In garage? >The problem can't be fuel or ignition related because the car runs fine >at WOT. Which sensors does the ECU reference ap part throttle but ignore >at WOT? Wrong. Sensors control the fuel and ignition. If it isn't a physical mechanical thing (like you dropped a valve) - it's either fuel or ignition or air-intake or exhaust.. >Ed "Dirt Tracking in the Snow" Walters Toppa the head sorta thing: 1. Check plugs. Wet? Too rich. White? Too lean. Look different from each other - lotsa things. 2. Too rich? Plug wet? Fuel pressure regulator, bad plug(s), moisture in the ignition cap, bad ignition rotor, bad coil, bad ignition wire (either to plugs - or the one between coil and cap), bad Motronic, bad main relay... and prolly a few other things that haven't popped to mind. (plugged exhaust just popped up, and sticky cold-start injector).. 3. Too lean? Fuel pressure regulator, ice in the fuel lines (use drygas), plugged fuel filter, bad fuel pump. Sticky AFM (air-flow-meter), intake or vacuum leak. Either lean/rich conditions can also be caused by a bad temperature sensor, there are several. The AFM is in/out of circuit at various RPM's, so I'd prolly start by making sure the vane in it is moving correctly, and the connections to it are clean and dry.. the engine will sorta run with a wonky AFM - but could give the symptoms you've described. Since it's a sudden thing - we'll discount general lack of maintanence or valve adjustment. The two magnetic engine sensors (located in your bellhousing) are usually a go-no-go thing. If one craps out - you end up with a no go situation. If it was me - I'd replan my trip. Roads are still crappy anyway.. and find a good mechanic to take a looksee. Best, ........................................ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger You're absolutely right, and I apologize --Darryl Richman ........................................ ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #118 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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