[uucdigest] Thursday, January 27 2000 Volume 03 : Number 132 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] M coupe/roadster wheel weights ?? [uuc] Correct Plug Gap Re: [uuc] <E30> Control Arms: The Big Question Re: [uuc] M coupe/roadster wheel weights ?? [uuc] Re: THE E30 M3 FS ON E-BAY [uuc] RE: explosives around driver (Was: Bad accident) Re: [uuc] bad accident [uuc] <E28> flaky ABS [uuc] M5 brakes and free speech [uuc] M5 Observation [uuc] m3 Re: [uuc] bad accident - maggots unlimited [uuc] WOB and off topic to boot! (Sorry) Re: [uuc] Roll Cage for E36 coupe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:16:26 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] M coupe/roadster wheel weights ?? anyone know how much the stock wheels on the M coupe/roadster weigh ?? I believe that Mr. Liaw had a set of fronts for one fo his M3's & that he had a particular wheel weight fetish a while back, perhaps he remembers ;-) - -- Ben Keyes '99 M coupe '88 M5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:19:42 -0600 From: Rob Shively <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Correct Plug Gap I have a 1991 318i an I can't find the owner manual so I need a little help. What is the correct spark plug gap? Thanks Rob '73 tii '91 318i ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:25:54 -0600 From: Dog-n-Hog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E30> Control Arms: The Big Question Bob, No, a socket will not fit. An open-end wrench will barely fit (easier on the left/driver's side than the right), but it will indeed fit. Removing the catalytic converter/downpipe gives the right side much more room. Either way, the open-end wrench can turn the nut only a few degrees at a time. GL, Norm Bob Fluharty wrote: > > Redid my front struts and control arm bushings last weekend. I did the > easy part (removal and reinstallation) and had a shop do the srut > cartridge inserts and press the CA bushings into the brackets. But > part of the easy part turned out to be hard. > > My intent was to remove the control arms from the car, but I coudn't > figure out how to release the inside control arm ball joint. The nut's > on the top side of the subframe. You can reach it from under the car > with a wrench, but you have no room to move the wrench. You can see it > from above (engine compartment) but you can't get a socket on it. > > I finally decided to replace the bushings with the control arms on the > car. Removal wasn't hard (with a puller) although it sure helps if you > clean the dirt off the stub of the shaft the bushing has to slide off, > and even polish it a little with sandpaper. The second side went much > faster than the first because I figured this out. > > Installing the new bushings was much rougher than anticipated. I > thought I could just lube it up and push it on. Hardly - that sucker's > tight. I thought at worst I'd have to drive it on with a hammer. That > doesn't work either; with impact, the rubber just distorts and springs > back. It responds much better to slow steady pressure. I finally > concocted a Rube Goldberg arrangement involving a ratcheting bar > clamp, a couple of peices of scrap steel, voodoo, and a great deal of > profanity. All this on my back under the car on the coldest day of the > year. If I ever do this again, I'll first develop a press which hooks > in the holes in the arm itself. And I'll do it in July. But I'd still > rather be at a work bench than under the car. > > Eventually I fretted everything into place, so my story has a happy > ending. But I'm left with the question for those of you who've been > there: How the hell'd you get that nut off? > > Bob Fluharty > '87 325is > Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M coupe/roadster wheel weights ?? > I believe that Mr. Liaw had a set of fronts for one fo his M3's & that he had > a > particular wheel weight fetish a while back, perhaps he remembers ;-) HAD??!?!?! You're talking about the Ultimate Wheel Whore driving the Ultimate Driving Machine with the Ultimate Short Shifter..... I think he secretly fills his wheels with helium to try to make them lighter... LOL, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:19:24 -0500 From: Rich Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: THE E30 M3 FS ON E-BAY Steven Schlossman wrote: >> examples of these cars are apparently starting to dry up. > How about a rent to own deal? > I wouldn't put many miles on it. > Just to a few trips a year to a place near an apple orchard in West > Virginia and maybe to a horse track in Maryland several times a year. And > it would be only on weekends. [snip] steven, steven..... come on now. you know me better than that. a few trips a year to the apple orchard and the horse track is all i do. <g> even if it does get out on the weekends, it's just for nice slow 'drives' with a few of my closest chapter friends. doesn't sound like you would take any better care of than i currently am. i better keep it. thanks for the generous offer though. rich ncc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:35:13 -0500 From: "George, Zachariah (CICG Development)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: explosives around driver (Was: Bad accident) How 'bout explosive liquids, John? ..HIGHLY flammable, at the very least.. :) Zach > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:06:40 -0800 > From: "John Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What is it about airbags I don't like? Humm...explosives! I > think there is > something fundamentally wrong with explosive devices around > the driver. > > - -John > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:38:22 -0500 From: "Coldfire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bad accident The chain of command goes like this: Trooper, Zone Sergeant, Commander, Superintendent, Commissioner of Taxation and Finance. : ) Occasionally you will find cops who believe that speed enforcement is not their number 1 priority. They don't remain pulling that type of duty too long. They get sent to play McGruff for a few weeks. Then they leave law enforcement. Guy '87 535iS - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] bad accident > <soapbox> > > The "law" when applied to automobiles isn't about lessons or corrections. > It's about revenue. > > I find the whole idea of "State Troopers" hiding behind billboards and being > judge, jury, and executioner for activities we all do, or legitimate > accidents, to be so repugnant that it's sickening. > > I believe in strong speed limit enforcement - AFTER they've rounded up all the > murderers, rapists, kidnappers, crooked politicians, drunk drivers, thieves, > and people who spit in public, then they will have plenty of time for that. > Call me silly, but all of those things seem a little more important than 99% > of the traffic stops I see. > > </soapbox> > > - Rob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > but... i just think that any dickhead who has to write a ticket to some > > guy who just completely totaled his car and is laying there in pain with > > a broken pelvis (or whatever) is a total sleeze, talk about adding > > insult to injury (assuming, of course, that ths was a single-car > > incident, which i believe this was). > > > > i mean, IF the guy was reckless, i think he learned his lesson. > > > > m. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:51:55 -0500 From: Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E28> flaky ABS (Apologies to those on the other digest who had to download this again. :) With the recent snowfall in my part of the world, I've had ample opportunity to test my (new to me) '86 528e's ABS, repeatedly. It works. I've felt and heard it work. I've felt it work on just one wheel and I've felt it work on all four wheels, but it doesn't work but once in a great while. The vast majority of the time, on slippery (snowy, icy) roads, I'm able to lock all four wheels up solid at any speed I like and slide as long as I like without a peep from the ABS. Once in a great while, usually shortly after starting out on a trip, before the end of my driveway, I can get the ABS to activate once, maybe twice, then the brakes function as if the ABS isn't there for the rest of the day. Somebody please tell me there's an easily replacable $15 relay that wears out... Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:42:27 +1100 From: "Thomas, Andrew j" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] M5 brakes and free speech As someone who isn't going to be sued for slander by BMW, or anyone (what are they going to do? Send me a plane ticket?) I am going to jump in, if that's alright with you. Last time I looked, the US was a democratic nation that championed free speech, free assocation, stuff like that. Now, what exactly is the difference between saying "the [x]'s brakes cannot stand up to repeated abuse", and saying "BMW should be ashamed of the 318i because it's grossly underpowered"? (Opinions, by the way, that don't generally get voiced anywhere else in the world.) I doubt I have the same sources as Steve D'G. But I have seen (inasmuch as I believe what I see on the net) that under the most extreme of extreme track conditions, the M5's brakes can be made to fade and smoke. I saw video clips posted on a website a while back from a German guy who thrashed his M5 to fluid-boil. Allegedly he was the second or third owner to have exposed this "flaw". Now, perhaps you expect miracles for $80,000, or $200,000, or $500,000, depending on where you live. The laws of physics still apply, though; the M5 is a big, heavy car that can generate a hell of a lot of energy. Some owners seem to assume that by throwing money at the problem, they can "buy out" physics. Now, before M5 drivers panic and think about ringing their lawyer (joking!), please remember that this big, heavy, air-conditioned, leather-lined,10-speakered, 1,800 kg, standard-production luxury car was being driven around a track normally populated by 400 kg single-seat racers. It probably posted faster times too. Think about this, and think about what you are asking the car to do. Your car has brakes that will stand up to the most extreme of extreme road conditions. BMW does not build track cars; it builds road cars whose capabilities generally exceed road requirements. We capitalise on this by taking them to the track and showing how our cars are over-engineered more than the next guy's. But the moment we start complaining about how our road-designed, road-registered, air-conditioned luxury cars fall apart on the track, that's the moment we should stop pretending to be race car drivers and go out and buy a Formula Ford, or a kart, or whatever. Oh, about the M5 being driven in bad weather - every time I see a steaming, filthy BMW with unidentifiable paint colour and black wheels, I I usually think "on ya!" for not being afraid to use his car. Just me :). Andy T "This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. 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Oh, I can think of one condition I wouldn't drive my car in, a hail storm. Happy Motoring!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:45:01 -0330 From: "Blair Daggett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] m3 The thread on the ebay m3 got me looking around. Here's one for $9950.00 CDN (approx 6500 US). Don't know a thing about the car, dealer, etc., but here's the link: http://canada.trader.com/trader/search/result/trdshow.v3?GuideT=&SearchId=40 00&sid=84QXOWA17995408&Affich=&pg=3&pn=11 Blair Daggett ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:21:42 -0500 From: "Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bad accident - maggots unlimited I've said it before, I'll say it again. If all drivers carried hand guns, we wouldn't have to suffer at the hands of these dickless pricks. How long do you think it would take even these dumbass nazi's to work out that the revenue isn't worth it when they start copping bullets in the head. It would only take a dozen or so dead maggots to make the rest of them think twice about that revenue. Brett Anderson www.koalamotorsport.com Home of the E30 M3 CD-ROM repair manual > From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] bad accident > > <soapbox> > > The "law" when applied to automobiles isn't about lessons or corrections. > It's about revenue. > > I find the whole idea of "State Troopers" hiding behind billboards and being > judge, jury, and executioner for activities we all do, or legitimate > accidents, to be so repugnant that it's sickening. > > I believe in strong speed limit enforcement - AFTER they've rounded up all the > murderers, rapists, kidnappers, crooked politicians, drunk drivers, thieves, > and people who spit in public, then they will have plenty of time for that. > Call me silly, but all of those things seem a little more important than 99% > of the traffic stops I see. > > </soapbox> > > - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:37:24 -0800 From: "Chao, Harvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WOB and off topic to boot! (Sorry) Any one having: ". . .cement/fiber roofing products commonly known as Cemwood Shakes. The products at issue were sold under the following brand names: Cemwood Shakes, Permatek Shakes, Permatek II Shakes, Trieste Tiles, Pacific Slate, Royal Shakes, or Cascade Shakes. " Check www.cemwoodclaims.com for info about a class action lawsuit/settlement. With apologies to any of you not so involved. Donning Nomex flame suit now. Harvey - I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it off and use a Mac. " Author Unknown - Dragged over to the "Dark Side" under duress This day, Thursday, 9/16/99 - - A dark day indeed! - Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:31:28 -0000 From: "SCOTT AND JULIE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Roll Cage for E36 coupe Schroth makes belts that use the stock belt mounting points and retains the original belts. You can just tuck them out of the way when you aren't using them, and you won't have to go through the hassle of a roll bar. You will lose out on the safety advantage of the bar though, but if you are just going to autox and such, shouldn't be a big deal though. Scott 84 733-wifes 85 325e-money pit #3 - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Foos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW Digest-Post (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: [uuc] Roll Cage for E36 coupe >Hello all, > >We'll it's freekin' cold in Chicago so there's nothing better to do than to >gear-up for another season of driving schools. After Grattan last year, I'm >determined to put in harnesses. The problem is deciding between a 1/2 cage >or a harness bar. > >My car (M3) is my daily driver, so I like the flexibility of having a >harness bar that can be taken out. Harnesses are cool - but do I want them >all year round? The flip side is that the cage is much safer in the case of >a roll-over. My concern with a 1/2 cage is street safety. If you got into an >accident without a helmet on - could you hit your head on the cage? > >Any musing, or advice? Thanks in advance. > >David Foos >'95 ///M3 >BMW CCA # 172816 > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #132 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
