[uucdigest] Friday, January 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 144 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Gateway Tech [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited Fw: [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited Re: [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited [uuc] Speed traps (was Re: bad accident) [uuc] Re: Clean car = enthusiast? Hah! [uuc] RE:M5 sighting/pre-judging/sugar mama Re: E36 Flooded ECU (was Re: [uuc] M5 Observation) [uuc] Re: M5s for sale Re: [uuc] Cop Rave/Rant (my last post, I swear!) [uuc] Re: Clean car = enthusiast? [uuc] Left Lane Drowsing [uuc] <FS> Misc performance, track, and E30 M3 Parts [uuc] hmmmmm.. [uuc] <WOB> cops, tickets (way long) <pg down> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:05:30 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Gateway Tech Who is the contact for this year's Gateway Tech? SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:07:04 -0500 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited I just can't believe no one has asked the obvious question: What on earth was Brett Anderson doing driving a PORSCHE 996?? I'm amazed he admitted to it, and he deserves some serious shit for the transgression. ;-) Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:16:55 -0500 From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited Kathy, I'll admit that I noticed the Porsche 996 part, but I figured since he was on such a rant that I better not give him any grieve. I did not want to be lumped in with the maggots <g> Dean What was he doing driving a Porsche 996? > I just can't believe no one has asked the obvious question: What on > earth was Brett Anderson doing driving a PORSCHE 996?? I'm amazed he > admitted to it, and he deserves some serious shit for the transgression. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:34:05 -0500 From: "James Sheridan-Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: bad accident - maggots unlimited > I just can't believe no one has asked the obvious question: What on > earth was Brett Anderson doing driving a PORSCHE 996?? I'm amazed he > admitted to it, and he deserves some serious shit for the transgression. I guess we all figure he got plenty of if, Kathy <BFG>. - -- James Sheridan-Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Capital Chapter '98 323is '85 RX-7 GSL #?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:42:08 -0500 From: Michiel van Wessem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Speed traps (was Re: bad accident) A couple of weeks ago on 195 I was passed by a state trooper. He was doing 90 or 95 in a 65 and then he braked hard to settle in his favorite speed trap spot behind an overpass. You gotta love it. I was wondering if it's possible for a regular person to give him a ticket. Michiel (defensive driving course on 2/9) At 03:38 PM 1/27/00 -0500, Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: ><soapbox> > >The "law" when applied to automobiles isn't about lessons or corrections. >It's about revenue. > >I find the whole idea of "State Troopers" hiding behind billboards and being >judge, jury, and executioner for activities we all do, or legitimate >accidents, to be so repugnant that it's sickening. > >I believe in strong speed limit enforcement - AFTER they've rounded up all the >murderers, rapists, kidnappers, crooked politicians, drunk drivers, thieves, >and people who spit in public, then they will have plenty of time for that. >Call me silly, but all of those things seem a little more important than 99% >of the traffic stops I see. > ></soapbox> > >- Rob > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> but... i just think that any dickhead who has to write a ticket to some >> guy who just completely totaled his car and is laying there in pain with >> a broken pelvis (or whatever) is a total sleeze, talk about adding >> insult to injury (assuming, of course, that ths was a single-car >> incident, which i believe this was). >> >> i mean, IF the guy was reckless, i think he learned his lesson. >> >> m. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:42:05 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Clean car = enthusiast? Hah! On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Matthew Yip wrote: > Obviously the totally stock, shiny M3/4 - he wouldn't dream of > "abusing" his car. You on the other hand... > > <G> > > - --- Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, who's the enthusiast? Who cares more about their car? I dunno > > - all I know is that I glanced over and he had as big of a smile on > his face as I did.... I've ridden with Jim. I agree with the abuse assessment. He corners too fast, barely slowing down at all. He brakes at the last possible moment, and then accelerates seemingly as fast as possible. That can't be good for the car. I was glad I was wearing a helmet. Heck, last time I saw him, he had to change his tires before going home - they were practically bald! - -- John Bolhuis | "In America it is not considered to be mentally ill bolhuijo | when a woman advances on her prey in a discotheque @bolhuijo.com | setting with hardy cocktails present." | -Madonna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:45:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE:M5 sighting/pre-judging/sugar mama On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > right! Is it to hard to just say that your jealous? > Brian (looking for a sugar mamma, to buy me a ///M 5) Jacobs A sugar mama to buy me an M5? Hell, I'd settle for a sex-crazed beer distributor heiress with a 528e. - -- John Bolhuis | "In America it is not considered to be mentally ill bolhuijo | when a woman advances on her prey in a discotheque @bolhuijo.com | setting with hardy cocktails present." | -Madonna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:48:15 -0800 From: richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E36 Flooded ECU (was Re: [uuc] M5 Observation) it was written" my formerly red E36 is now sitting out front of my office completely covered > with salt. it's so bad in the back that i literally can't read the rear > plate... > but you know what? it's a car. it's not a small child. it's not the mona > lisa. it's not some religious artifact. it's just a machine. one that i > bought because i like to use it. it does me no good to have it in the garage > while i drive an uncomfortable, slow, ill-handling winter beater (and this > thing *rocks* in the snow with the right tires). i'll shine her up again in > the spring... i agree, lifis short, eat your desert...FIRST... why drive a beater when you can have the real fornication... i love my cars, drive em...like i love em richard, lover of cars ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:24:23 -0500 From: "Timothy Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: M5s for sale Mark said: "I saw seven adds in Autoweek from people speculating on M5's, as in "best offer over MSRP...<snip>...Is it bad for me to wish that these people lose their shirts on these cars?" While I agree with your sentiment, my mom once told me that a 'fair price' is what the buyer will pay and the seller will take. Sometimes the free market ain't pretty, but it's better than anything else out there. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:39:36 -0500 From: Michiel van Wessem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Cop Rave/Rant (my last post, I swear!) At 06:35 PM 1/28/00 -0500, Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: (snip) >Okay, you've just proved my point: Troopers are interested mostly in >punishment, not safety. Is the idea to write tickets or to keep people from >speeding? If they're interested in safety, they would be moving along all the >time with their lightbar flashing, letting the public know that they're "on >the job". Is the concept that 'security' is only from visible elements >foreign to law enforcement? Gee, the US wants to intimidate a foreign enemy - >sail the ships nearby, fly some airplanes overhead, do nothing but be visible >and everybody falls back into line. You want to protect your car, you get a >flashing light on your dashboard and warning stickers on the windshield. Law >enforcement wants to promote "safety"? They hide and keep people in a state >of paranoia so they're looking at the sides of the road for hidden radar traps >instead of paying attention to the road. (snip) There are other dangerous results from speed enforcement: - - People who drive fast (not me, I've had enough) usually stay out of the left lane and pass in the right lane. This is dangerous because people are less prepared for cars passing them on the right. - - People usually speed in tight packs. I'm assuming it's harder to pick someone out with a radar gun. Drive alone, with half a mile before and behind you and you can count on getting a speeding ticket. Sorry to post about this also/again, but it bothers me (too). Michiel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:52:21 -0500 From: "Timothy Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: Clean car = enthusiast? Jim, describing his black M3, said: "...cat paw prints tracking across the hood, etc. etc. etc." See, BMWs are pussy magnets. Tim T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:13:53 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Left Lane Drowsing All of the discussion regarding the issue of tickets for holding out in the left lane makes me curious. Does anyone have any idea what the actual number of citations might be compared to the tickets given when a bunch of cars is moving at the same rate of speed even though that speed is above the limit. What bothers me is I too have never seen the slow poke sleepy left laner get pulled over. And what about; Clear day, dry road, light to med. traffic, everybody doing 10 mph over the limit. All of a sudden a trooper enters the highway, everyone backs off, tightens up the distances between cars and instantly creates an unnatural driving scenario. Here in N. California 10 miles above the limit is average everyday speed. Of the people, by the people, et. Who's running this show? Aren't we effectively "Voting" with our foot? R. Paleski 99 540i touring ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:27:45 -0500 From: "James Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <FS> Misc performance, track, and E30 M3 Parts All parts are from my car, either stripping or upgrading: - -Instrument cluster - $150 - -gas tank, pumps, etc - -rear wing - $80 (nice, some hail pitting), painted non-factory black - -TRW/Sabelt Harness - 6 point camlock, red, used 1 year, never stretched in a wreck! - $100 - -windshield (must pick-up or meet me to get it) - $200 - -Group N engine mounts, used about 5 hours - $660 new, will sell for $450 - -stock flywheel, headers - -4 225/50-16 Kumhos, 2 track sessions on them - $360 total - -6 225/60-16 Hoosiers, heat cycled, never used, correctly stored, $150 each. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance and Recycled Parts Please include a copy of all correspondences. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:23:11 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] hmmmmm.. >From: Eric Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [uuc] How to kill a resistor > >Nice explanation, BUT I'm talking about the auxiliary cooling fan, you >know, the one in front of the radiator. :-) Oh well.. if you had the heater fan go bad.. :-) BTW - anyone consider alternative fans for the aux-fan? Certainly enough other cars use these that paying $300+ for the 'real thing' seems a bit silly. Aftermarket universal fans run from $30 to $70.. and appear to be of excellent quality.. .. Snow Sucks, =============================================== Don Eilenberger JMP#1 Spring Lk Hts, NJ, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] =============================================== "Don't wrestle with pigs in the mud.. the pig enjoys it and you just get dirty.." =============================================== You're absolutely right, and I apologize --Darryl Richman NJ Shore BMW Riders Web Page: http://www.monmouth.com/~deilenberger =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:48:48 -0800 From: Mike Kasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WOB> cops, tickets (way long) <pg down> Gilbert writes: >I am aware of the reasons they run without lights/sirens. However, what >makes a speeding police cruiser without lights/sirens safer than a >'civilian' car committing the same traffic offenses? (hint: little or >nothing.) Ok, police get some driver training. However, they are (crown >vics) heavier (inflict more damage) don't stop/corner as well as my BMW. > So >why do I get a ticket if I am no less safe? (And probably more safe.) I agree, Gilbert. I've watched the Washington State Patrol slide by on the road on freezing ice/rain conditions with ALL 4 LOCKED, just like some of the rest of us.... this is only like at 20-25mph. But the fact remains, when weather surprises you and you come around a turn and it's all ice, grab your ass and good luck..... (and he, as a COP, had NO CONTROL at that point!) couldn't turn, stop, whatever until inertia and gravity just ran their course.. 8-) The cops are supposed to be trained and know what to do. I know up here they at least throw them out on the wet skid pad for a few days... but that doesn't mean they can walk on water any better than the rest of us track junkies......(and I would suspect the majority of them have far less practical experience at HIGH SPEED than the average club track junkie who has attended more than 4-5 schools. Why? They just don't have it in the budget to spend the money on the training they really DO DESERVE since they are out there putting themselves and OURSELVES lives' on the line EVERY day!! To me, this is criminal, that the gov't, local or otherwise wouldn't give these public servants a high(er) level of driver training before entrusting them to know how to handle their cars and themselves in high pursuit/high stress situations. How can this be?? And I know they get some skid-pad training in school. Fact remains, like it or not, I know for a fact I could easily just completely DUST these guys in my M3 if they happened to want to stop me up here where I live on the two-lane twisty highway. Big deal, look at the crappy cars they drive now days. No kiddin', your car is much faster? No shit... Give them a break. I have to say, I feel sorry for them. Thank God for Motorola and repeators or the bmw heathens would be raining death and destruction all over the planet (ha, ha!) They don't (the average grunt cop) get paid enough for going to "war" every day on the job. I just want to leave them alone, and hope they reciprocate. I don't care to test their radios, though, and would prefer to remain on their "good sides" as much as possible as they all know where I live anyhow. I don't prefer to test my luck coming around a local 35mph posted corner at 75 and meeting "bambi" or "ma and pa" in their broke down camper/honda/trailer "fill in the blank" either, (easy enough done with no surprises...) so I generally save my fun driving days for the TRACK, thank you! I live in skamania county (WA.) and AFIAK there are only 2 blue M3's in the county... we (and the other guy who I've met at PIR lives on complete opposite sides of the county) have only ~10k population in the whole county (this is where Mt. St. Helens is for some more WOB...) So it isn't like a big mystery if the local sheriff wants to come visit.... you can hit that stuff up here where it's below freezing and good traction for a few miles, then you go around a corner and over a hill a bit, and it's ALL ice with a fine layer of melting water on top (OH YEAH, just PERFECT!!) don't ask me how i know.... Maybe it's just a difference between 32-33 degrees and a little bit more wind blowing (20-40mph??) down the gorge..... have fun on those winter tires, and WATCH YOUR ASS.... ASC can work great, I run up a big hill and quite steep grade in light snow/frost with ASC and it works wonders. Get stuck in a parking lot with 4" of snow and I CAN'T MOVE until I turn ASC off. I don't think it works real GREAT at slow speed/standing starts. And for you winter tire junkies/survivalists out where the REAL winter lives, I still think you can't beat the Hakkapeliitta tires for snow and ice. Let's face it, who can teach the Fins about snow/ice?? I've run a set on my '74 ghia, but try to refrain from running my E36 M3 when it's really nasty so don't know about fitment and performance on those cars.. but I sure would look into it if I wanted to run it all year around. In general, narrow is ALMOST always better in snow, more weight/PSI per corner which makes a big difference in snow. As far as why I don't run my M3 all year: There is just so much "sand" the county puts on the roads down here when there is ice ( 'SAND' = 1-1/4" minus gravel) Hello new windshield, hello MUCHOS rock dings on the front of the car! Better than salt, though, so I guess I shouldn't whine and just be thankful I've got a "winter beater" to run when it really gets ragged out here. But for ragged, let's defer to our friends on the "Konservative Coast" this time around... 8-) 8-; sorry, couldn't help it..... Hope you guyz are OK.... cheers, mike washougal, wa. (somewhere lost in the columbia gorge) '96 M3 (barn queen for the most part right now) ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #144 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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