[uucdigest] Monday, January 31 2000 Volume 03 : Number 154 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] E30 M3 in Penticton Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Need help installing wiper elements ;) [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! RE: [uuc] autotrader.com Re: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. RE: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question RE: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Found a source for halon extinguishers Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:07:39 -0800 From: Tabe Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 M3 in Penticton Did anyone on this list buy the white E30 M3 that sold in Penticton, BC last week? - --tabe johnson Vancouver, BC (slow off the mark) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 05:21:44 -0500 From: Andrew Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question > FWIW, > those "important police things" you spoke of in your earlier post are what > police, sheriffs and troopers do. Probably 65% of arrests of your "real > criminals" come out of traffic stops for minor traffic violations. Think > about that. I have arrested murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and > rapists from your "meaningless" traffic stops. Great, but the problems they (Rob et al) have been illustrating, and my very own problem is why do we, the NON-criminal element get harrassed, and have the cop's poor maldeveloped egoes (no doubt the result of pops beating on them as a child) projected onto us. Why do the cops take the moral high ground with everyone, including my NON-criminal self, even after you run the license and find out we aren't "murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and rapists" What percentage of _traffic stops_ reveal true criminals? Let's conservatively pull out of our wazoo that 1 in 10000 stops finds your aforementioned criminal. Then why do the pigs treat that other 99.99% like criminals? But wait, your statistic that 65% of criminals are arrested duing traffic stops show 1) that police are collectively lazy, and wait to find them by running their license looking for warrants not by investigating heinous crimes effectively as they happen, and 2) we do live in a police state because your harass everyone and treat everyone like criminals and only find that small fraction of a percent that deservedly is criminal. You are attempting to apply a utilitarian justification to the use of excessive traffic enforcement. That 65% percent of criminals are found during traffic stops shows that too little time is spent actually trying to police the criminal element. You did not prove that traffic harrassment is justified applied to the whole society not just the criminal element. So why don't you guys learn a little statisics, and quit trying to justify your revenue collecting, power tripping bullshit in such a lame way. > THAT, my friends is what really goes on out there. Regardless of what you > think happens, or your opinions on how we do our jobs. You are making an > UNINFORMED decision based on opinion, conjecture and (boo hoo) mob rule. > Thank God we live in america so we are entitled to our opinions. It just > seems like deliberately spreading misinformation based on feelings not fact > is inappropriate. Just using the facts you gave me to work with ;-) Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:30:28 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. I'm in the middle of changing the coolant hoses, water pump, and belts on my E28 M5 and I'm having a heck of a time installing the new belt on the a/c compressor pulley...it was tough getting the old one off too. Is there a trick to the a/c belt?....the adjustment spline bolt is as loose as it will go....removing the belts off the power steering pump and alternator were easy. Is the only way to install the belt on the a/c compressor to partially remove the comp. unit? Anyone who has done this that has the answer please "enlighten" me...I want to get the car back together now before I forget where everything goes<g>! Happy ///Motoring, John Weese BMW CCA #76646 Nittany Bimmers Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:56:14 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Need help installing wiper elements ;) used a little water...or spit on it. the little lubrication should make it pop into place. ben - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:54 AM Subject: [E36M3] Need help installing wiper elements ;) > Whoa boy.. JTD ODB? No problem. UUC Short shifter w/ delrin bushing + ERK? > No problem. VDO gauges? No problem. Aftermarket stereo? No problem. Euro > headlights? No problem. > > Wiper elements? Uh...Houston, we have a problem. > > DOH! I can't get the last part of the refill to pass the little ramp. So how > do I lock it into place? Duh...I feel stoopid. > > TIA, > Chester > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 05:54:30 -0600 From: Morrie Bowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! I have a 2.5 pounder in my basement if anyone wants it, it's yours. Halon works faster than CO2 and for years it was the way to go since it didn't cake up in printers, retain water on computer circuit boards, and left the unburned equipment in your avionics bay operational. In other words easy clean up. Used on an engine on a pylon out in the slipstream is probably safe, but I wouldn't want it in the cockpit of a car. Lots of users are weighing it's clean up ease against the fact that it's carcinogenic. That's why you'll find the activation switch "outside" the computer room. I don't allow my men into a room that's been Halon flooded. I think cars are cheaper than aggressive cancer. So be advised. Lt. Morrie CFD 318i > Subject: [uuc] Found a source for halon extinguishers...maybe Hmmm...2.5lb bottle > for $89.95. It didn't mention the fact that it's "Halon",but since it's in the > same catalog for computer equipment, one might deduce that it would be wire safe > ;) > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:29:47 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] autotrader.com > Searched the website (advertised on tonight's super bowl) for > M5 and saw > in addition to the speculators current M5 crop, an M5 M1 of 1981 > vintage, orange with a black interior and 27K miles. > > Whattaya think? Just $72,500. Less likely to depreciate as much as the > 2000 M5 eh? > > Ed I think that car is here in Indianapolis at Ooley & Blackburn Motors. I have been meaning to go take a look at it. I even think I know who's car it used to be. If it is the one I am thinking of...it is absolutely mint, 100% USDA choice beef. Yes, that is quite a price.... Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:30:15 -0600 From: Dog-n-Hog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. John, You might consider geting another belt, 1/2" longer in length. Sounds like the old belt was/is slightly too short. It is usually difficult to get on, but is sounds like it just might be too short for the job. Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm in the middle of changing the coolant hoses, water pump, and belts on my > E28 M5 and I'm having a heck of a time installing the new belt on the a/c > compressor pulley...it was tough getting the old one off too. > > Is there a trick to the a/c belt?....the adjustment spline bolt is as loose > as it will go....removing the belts off the power steering pump and > alternator were easy. Is the only way to install the belt on the a/c > compressor to partially remove the comp. unit? > > Anyone who has done this that has the answer please "enlighten" me...I want > to get the car back together now before I forget where everything goes<g>! > > Happy ///Motoring, > > John Weese > BMW CCA #76646 > Nittany Bimmers Chapter > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:40:53 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E28 M5> Changing V-Belt on A/C Comp. > I'm in the middle of changing the coolant hoses, water pump, > and belts on my > E28 M5 and I'm having a heck of a time installing the new > belt on the a/c > compressor pulley...it was tough getting the old one off too. > > Is there a trick to the a/c belt?....the adjustment spline > bolt is as loose > as it will go....removing the belts off the power steering pump and > alternator were easy. Is the only way to install the belt on the a/c > compressor to partially remove the comp. unit? > > Anyone who has done this that has the answer please > "enlighten" me...I want > to get the car back together now before I forget where > everything goes<g>! John, count me in on this problem. I am still driving around with no belt to the AC condensor (but it's winter so.....oh well). It seems absolutely impossible to get on. I had to cut the old one off. Yep, other two belts went on like cake. What is the trick here? Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:44:05 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) It's a brilliant idea. Add in "driver qualification" tags (passive repeater RF tags, current technology) that you would get for taking certain driver training courses. Voila, personally adjusted speed limits! This would be the most intelligent system ever applied to traffic management. I doubt it will happen in our lifetime (although I would love to be proven wrong). Ask Joan Claybrook why. When the day comes that I rule the world, you're in charge of the highways, Grant! - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Low <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) > Why aren't there "smart" speed limit signs that can take traffic and weather > data and calculate an actually /appropriate/ speed limit. In these > digitally advanced days, the technology needed can only be getting more > available and less expensive. > Grant > 87 325 - loves cruising fast! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 05:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) How dare you slander my heroine!! She's the queen of the wind bags, er, I mean air bags. - --- Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I doubt it will happen in our lifetime (although I would love to be > proven wrong). Ask Joan Claybrook why. ===== Matthew Yip [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/mgyip/ '87 GTi 16v - x2 '88 M5 '99 F350 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:58:45 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question I'm getting pretty sick of a few things: 1) this discussion on the UUC Digest. I've taken my discussion with Ted private. 2) being doubted about the speeds that I have seen State Troopers pass me. I've spent enought time with timing devices at race tracks to know a speed visually within 5% accuracy. Troopers abuse this privilege of high-speed travel in Crown Vics that are UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED. Every review of police cars laughs at their ridiculously low performance abilities. No brakes = no brakes, no matter how skilled the driver may be. 3) Those "important things" are what the Troopers should be doing also. It's a disgusting waste of public resources. Now, I consider this topic CLOSED to further discussion on the UUC Digest. Too much of an opinion issue with raised tempers, and nobody is going to convince anybody of anything. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] response to gilberts question > Finally, in response to Rob...although I respect your opinions and your > expertise as it relates to BMW's and this list, I can't help but think you > are exaggerating here. w sdmmmean, I drive these police cruisers and 130 > mph is significantly pushing these cars to their limits. But hey...you are > the expert...it's just what I do for a living so how would I know? FWIW, > those "important police things" you spoke of in your earlier post are what > police, sheriffs and troopers do. Probably 65% of arrests of your "real > criminals" come out of traffic stops for minor traffic violations. Think > about that. I have arrested murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and > rapists from your "meaningless" traffic stops. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:06:13 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) > It's a brilliant idea. > > Add in "driver qualification" tags (passive repeater RF tags, current > technology) that you would get for taking certain driver training > courses. > > Voila, personally adjusted speed limits! Hmmmm...what if they were automatically able to adjust YOUR cars speed. If the limit is 55, then your car will not go over that. That would suck. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:25:05 -0500 From: Mark Borchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Found a source for halon extinguishers Before ordering halon extinguishers from mail-order/web-based automotive suppliers, I would recommend checking with your local fire extinquisher supply companies. Most are totally familiar with halon systems, as they also have many industrial applications. My local Cleveland-area supplier not only carries the small 3.5lb units, but also can supply halon "bomb" extinguishing systems. Some apps may have to be ordered, but locally, they maintain an inventory as well. Pricing is industry-competitive... Besides... Who's going to service/refill your halon investment? Check local suppliers first. Mark Borchik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:31:46 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) Exactly. Too much Big Brother. But then again, if the speed limits were *rational*, it might not be a bad thing. I still say it's a moot point. - - Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cagann, Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] idea: variable speed limits (long) > > It's a brilliant idea. > > > > Add in "driver qualification" tags (passive repeater RF tags, current > > technology) that you would get for taking certain driver training > > courses. > > > > Voila, personally adjusted speed limits! > > > Hmmmm...what if they were automatically able to adjust YOUR cars speed. If > the limit is 55, then your car will not go over that. That would suck. > > Alex Cagann > 88///M5 > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #154 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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