[uucdigest] Monday, January 31 2000 Volume 03 : Number 155 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: Re: [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! Re: [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! Re: [uuc] Absolutely incredible - zip files on site Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Need help installing wiper elements ;) [uuc] Police State [uuc] Smart speed limits Re: [uuc] bought the F650 [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> Re: [uuc] bought the F650 RE: [uuc] autotrader.com Re: [uuc] Superbowl commercials RE: [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:35:45 -0800 From: richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! THANKs...! ! ! ! !for sharing that richard... i have it one my boats, in the engine compartments i do know that halon, when injected by a diesel engine, produces phosgene gas...not good ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:35:55 -0800 From: richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Halon! .... Hold On! THANKs...! ! ! ! !for sharing that richard... i have it one my boats, in the engine compartments i do know that halon, when injected by a diesel engine, produces phosgene gas...not good Morrie Bowie wrote: > > I have a 2.5 pounder in my basement if anyone wants it, it's yours. Halon > works faster than CO2 and for years it was the way to go since it didn't cake up in > printers, retain water on computer circuit boards, and left the unburned equipment > in your avionics bay operational. In other words easy clean up. Used on an engine > on a pylon out in the slipstream is probably safe, but I wouldn't want it in the > cockpit of a car. > Lots of users are weighing it's clean up ease against the fact that it's > carcinogenic. That's why you'll find the activation switch "outside" the computer > room. I don't allow my men into a room that's been Halon flooded. I think cars are > cheaper than aggressive cancer. So be advised. > > Lt. Morrie CFD > 318i > > > Subject: [uuc] Found a source for halon extinguishers...maybe Hmmm...2.5lb bottle > > for $89.95. It didn't mention the fact that it's "Halon",but since it's in the > > same catalog for computer equipment, one might deduce that it would be wire safe > > ;) > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:45:06 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Absolutely incredible - zip files on site re: all the problems about getting this to work, go to : http://www.johnegerton.co.uk/cmcc/cars.htm where there are zipped versions of the real media files. for folks behind aggressive firewalls (like me), this is likely the only way to get the files. they look impressive indeed. Ben Keyes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:48:34 -0500 From: "Edwin S. MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] response to gilberts question John Fount says a lot of stuff in response to Gilbert's question but doesn't answer the mail. > Well Gilbert...if you are asking the question, then you must not be actually > aware why they run without the lights and sirens. > I reiterate what I have said in the past...lights and sirens cause people to > get stupid. They stop in front of you. Turn in front of you. Turn around > and look at you and host of other unexpected bone head movements. Here, in Maryland, you are expected to STOP when an officer puts his lights on behind you. To do otherwise is "fleeing and eluding" or "failure to stop when signaled by an officer." I doubt it is substantially different on the left coast. You pull to the right and if the officer needs by you, he goes by you. If you are the target, he pulls in behind you with his lights still going. When an officer goes by me (which means well in excess of the speed limit) without lights, I get stupid using my cell phone to get a hold of the cowboy's dispatcher and get him under control. The reason police used marked cars is to announce that they are police. If they are not also demonstrating proper driving techniques for the other drivers, they are not doing all of their job. I adopted this rant when mandatory seat belt use became the law and police chose to believe they could disregard it because they were special. They are not. I have never, once, had the dispatcher tell me that the cop was on a call. Never. > Probably 65% of arrests of your "real criminals" come out of traffic stops for minor >traffic violations. Think about that. I have arrested > murderers, dopers, pushers, >child molesters and rapists from your "meaningless" traffic stops. This looks like the standard "the end justifies the means" argument that has never worked in America. If the cops are allowed to randomly pull over every Scots-Irish-American on the roadway, they would surely get people who were "murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and rapists". Of course if they did their job and tracked these folks down before they got on the highway, they'd pull over fewer. Instead, the prevailing thought is, "We won't bother searching for the fugitive, we'll wait and sooner or later he'll get stopped for a traffic violation and we'll get him then." You, John, are then twisting this around and saying, "Look how much benefit there is to this totalitarian police presence." That's disingenuous, and you know it. Ed MacVaugh (the only time I directly needed the police was when my truck was stolen, and I recovered it before they even tried) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:52:30 -0600 From: Rich Gay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [E36M3] Need help installing wiper elements ;) on 1/30/00 11:54 PM, Chester Wong at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > DOH! I can't get the last part of the refill to pass the little ramp. So how > do I lock it into place? Duh...I feel stoopid. It is a pain. I use needle nose pliers to squeeze the insert enough to force everything together. Definitely take the wiper mechanism off of the arm when doing the replacement, if you've left it attached, this is much, much harder. - Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:56:46 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Police State I won't go into any of my personal feeling about police but I think its interesting and frightening that a rather large portion of the middle class HATES the police. That ought to scare the living shit out of the police and government in general. It ought to but it doesn't. Somehow its all our fault. And that, when analyzed enough, will show exactly why people hate the police. I'm worried as hell about the future of this country. Fight to keep your right to own a weapon people. Its time for a LOT of the government to get a wake up call. Jim "Edwin S. MacVaugh" wrote: > > John Fount says a lot of stuff in response to Gilbert's question but > doesn't answer the mail. > > > Well Gilbert...if you are asking the question, then you must not be actually > > aware why they run without the lights and sirens. > > > I reiterate what I have said in the past...lights and sirens cause people to > > get stupid. They stop in front of you. Turn in front of you. Turn around > > and look at you and host of other unexpected bone head movements. > > Here, in Maryland, you are expected to STOP when an officer puts his > lights on behind you. To do otherwise is "fleeing and eluding" or > "failure to stop when signaled by an officer." I doubt it is > substantially different on the left coast. You pull to the right and if > the officer needs by you, he goes by you. If you are the target, he > pulls in behind you with his lights still going. > > When an officer goes by me (which means well in excess of the speed > limit) without lights, I get stupid using my cell phone to get a hold of > the cowboy's dispatcher and get him under control. The reason police > used marked cars is to announce that they are police. If they are not > also demonstrating proper driving techniques for the other drivers, they > are not doing all of their job. I adopted this rant when mandatory seat > belt use became the law and police chose to believe they could disregard > it because they were special. They are not. > > I have never, once, had the dispatcher tell me that the cop was on a > call. Never. > > > Probably 65% of arrests of your "real criminals" come out of traffic stops for >minor traffic violations. Think about that. I have arrested > murderers, dopers, >pushers, child molesters and rapists from your "meaningless" traffic stops. > > This looks like the standard "the end justifies the means" argument that > has never worked in America. If the cops are allowed to randomly pull > over every Scots-Irish-American on the roadway, they would surely get > people who were "murderers, dopers, pushers, child molesters and > rapists". Of course if they did their job and tracked these folks down > before they got on the highway, they'd pull over fewer. Instead, the > prevailing thought is, "We won't bother searching for the fugitive, > we'll wait and sooner or later he'll get stopped for a traffic violation > and we'll get him then." You, John, are then twisting this around and > saying, "Look how much benefit there is to this totalitarian police > presence." That's disingenuous, and you know it. > > Ed MacVaugh (the only time I directly needed the police was when my > truck was stolen, and I recovered it before they even tried) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:01:46 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Smart speed limits Chester wrote....... << Last thing I need is some blue-haired grandma driving with the high beams on plowing down the turnpike at 85 mph because her eyesight misinterpreted 35 mph....yikes. >> With all due respect, this would not be a factor. When they raised our rural interstate speed limits from 55 to 65 the average speed actually driven only went up 3 mph, according to news reports. Most people were driving at reasonable speeds and will continue to do so regardless of the speed limit. Raising the limit only means that fewer people will get tickets. Highway deaths per-mile-driven (how likely are you to die for every mile you drive) have not been affected by the limit increases. The idea of Smart Speed Limits is interesting though...... Carter 325E Club Racer www.huntcomp.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:11:03 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Barry J. Bocaner wrote: >I like it, and it is just about right for what I want to do with it, even >if all my friends say it looks "geeky" and someone on this list (was it >phil marx?) says its not a REAL BMW. Yup, it was me. Having owned 8 BMW bikes since 1971, I have a hard time considering a chain-driven motorcycle, powered by a Rotax motor, built in Italy by Aprilla and sold with a BMW emblem on its flank a BMW. Never said it wasn't a nice motorcycle but did raise the idea that there are lot's of other fine (Japanese) bikes out there with more power and features for less money in the same size/weight class...once you open the door to other brands. Sure, this year they are supposed to take over production of the F model at the BMW plant in Berlin. Will that make it more of a BMW? Will a Rover FWD car with a BMW badge be a BMW? Will it be more so if they build it in Spartanburg? I offered that a really cherry used R100GS would make an excellent commuter bike alternative, certainly be a "real" BMW, and be able to be found for around $5000, even in the Paris-Dakar version. Hope you don't need to carry anything on the F-model. Ever seen what they look like with saddle bags? I hope you all enjoy your F-series "BMW" motorcycles. They are very nice bikes and obviously do what they were intended to do: bring first-time buyers, women riders and non-BMW owners to the BMW showroom. Even the Cruiser has done well in its nitch market. I assume the BMW pickup truck and mini-van will, likewise, have a mass appeal beyond the "traditional" BMW and in a few years Nissan can claim they invented the "sport sedan". <G> - -Phil Marx BMWCCA #6021 BMWMOA #2024 R27, R69US, R60/5, R100CS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:11:48 -0500 From: "David Larocque - ColorImage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> When i try to wash the windshield the passengers side gets full force while the drivers side only drivels up after a few seconds. I tired cleaning the nozzles numerous times but it does not seem to help. Has anyone experienced this before? '87 325 David Larocque ColorImage Canada Inc 416-955-9636 x 736 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:16:54 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] bought the F650 Then there are those of us who have owned bikes for 30 years and never bought one because they *were* real BMWs :) Bought mine for the dealership as much as the bike. I'm getting a little tired of explaining I don't have a tatoo. Really. And taking my kids into a bike shop is always a real experience. And if BMW can't build a small commuter bike it doesn't bother me if they farm it out. Too bad about Berlin though. The people in SC are better workers. Jim Phil Marx wrote: > > Barry J. Bocaner wrote: > >I like it, and it is just about right for what I want to do with it, even > >if all my friends say it looks "geeky" and someone on this list (was it > >phil marx?) says its not a REAL BMW. > > Yup, it was me. Having owned 8 BMW bikes since 1971, I have a hard time > considering a chain-driven motorcycle, powered by a Rotax motor, built in > Italy by Aprilla and sold with a BMW emblem on its flank a BMW. Never said > it wasn't a nice motorcycle but did raise the idea that there are lot's of > other fine (Japanese) bikes out there with more power and features for less > money in the same size/weight class...once you open the door to other > brands. > > Sure, this year they are supposed to take over production of the F model at > the BMW plant in Berlin. Will that make it more of a BMW? Will a Rover > FWD car with a BMW badge be a BMW? Will it be more so if they build it in > Spartanburg? I offered that a really cherry used R100GS would make an > excellent commuter bike alternative, certainly be a "real" BMW, and be able > to be found for around $5000, even in the Paris-Dakar version. Hope you > don't need to carry anything on the F-model. Ever seen what they look like > with saddle bags? > > I hope you all enjoy your F-series "BMW" motorcycles. They are very nice > bikes and obviously do what they were intended to do: bring first-time > buyers, women riders and non-BMW owners to the BMW showroom. Even the > Cruiser has done well in its nitch market. I assume the BMW pickup truck > and mini-van will, likewise, have a mass appeal beyond the "traditional" > BMW and in a few years Nissan can claim they invented the "sport sedan". > <G> > > -Phil Marx > BMWCCA #6021 > BMWMOA #2024 > R27, R69US, R60/5, R100CS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:29:09 -0500 From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] autotrader.com Alexander >> in addition to the speculators current M5 crop, an M5 M1 of 1981 >> vintage, orange with a black interior and 27K miles. > >I think that car is here in Indianapolis at Ooley & Blackburn Motors. I >have been meaning to go take a look at it. I even think I know who's car it >used to be. If it is the one I am thinking of...it is absolutely mint, 100% >USDA choice beef. Yes, that is quite a price.... If it is in fact the same car as in Indy, I know it well. I bought it from the original owner and sold it to the second owner. His financial problems put it in the hands of the third owner prior to a bankruptcy. Third owner also owns a small concern (Carmax/Circuit City) and ignored the car for years. Had lot's of brokers hawking the car for the last several years then it popped up at Indy under suspect conditions, namely the "owner" may not have really owned it and they "had a buyer for it" so it "really wan't for sale". There is also the matter of an accident causing front-end damage to it while in the hands of owner #2. And that fine stereo installation, tweeters in door, etc., was mine from over 15 years ago. If you do your homework, you'll find that M1s don't bring much money these days and have been steadily depreciating from a hight of about $125,000 to now when quite nice examples are sold for $60k. See Roundel for contact information for Gordon Medenica and the M1 Registry. Gordon has had the honor of paying over 6 figures and then LOTS less for a nicer car later. (Just don't let him tell you that the gas filler caps aren't always on the outside of the car.) - -Phil Marx BMWCCA #6021 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:30:33 -0500 From: "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Superbowl commercials I vote for the VW Jetta commercial. The one where the driver tackles the grocery cart that's about to hit his car. Or did I see that one some other night? Henry - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 1:48 AM Subject: [uuc] Superbowl commercials > If you missed them, here's most of them. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/promotions/superspots/ > > Jim > Yes, there are 2 BMW X5 commercials (OBMWC) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:42:31 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Dribily washer fluid <e30> > When i try to wash the windshield the passengers side gets > full force while > the drivers side only drivels up after a few seconds. I tired > cleaning the > nozzles numerous times but it does not seem to help. > > Has anyone experienced this before? David, it is probably your t-connector that splices the single line to both your washer nozzles. On my old 87 535is I had a bad t-connector. It was located in the center of the hood near the windshield (on the hood, not the body itself). The dealer wanted some outrageous price for an OE part...but I went to the hardware store and bought an 80 cent t-connector and it worked just great. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #155 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Curry's Auto Service . http://www.currysauto.com | Eurosport . http://www.eurosport-hp.com | Koala MotorSport . http://www.koalamotorsport.com | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | The Ultimate Garage . http://www.ultimategarage.com | UUC Motorwerks . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com | Zionsville Autosport . http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com ����������������������������������������
