[uucdigest] Thursday, February 3 2000 Volume 03 : Number 182 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] FS TRX tires on ebay... [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #179 Re: [uuc] Cold weather & heating RE: [uuc] Cold weather & heating [uuc] Head gasket [uuc] RE: <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HELP!!!!!! RE: [uuc] Cold weather & heating [uuc] E30 Cabriolet Sleeper Re: [uuc] Cold weather & heating RE: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HE LP!!!!!! [uuc] Frozen Lock Trick Re: [uuc] Re: taillight query [uuc] FS 97 528 Re: [uuc] E30 Cabriolet Sleeper [uuc] E32 735i- broken mounts for vent actuator motors RE: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HE LP!!!!!! [uuc] RE: Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:03:04 -0600 From: "Dave Lacki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS TRX tires on ebay... Saw these on ebay and "THINK" they are TRX tires for E28 cars...A steal if they are... Check it out... 5 MICHELIN TIRES 165/70HR365 TRX NEW Item #251111520 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251111520 Absolutely no affiliation with the seller....just a messenger out surfin... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 12:55:59 EST From: "Shawn Crews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #179 Brian, What's stripped? The head? If so, you can drill it out without ruining the threads. Use left-handed cobalt bits. They are AWESOME!! I just picked up a set from MSC Direct and I didn't even need to use easy-outs. Left-hand bits act as easy-outs as they drill. GOOD LUCK! - -Shawn >Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:07:36 EST >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt >HELP!!!!!! > >Digesters: > >I have a stuck / almost all the way stripped Brake Disc Mounting Bolt (1). >What to do next..... > >Please help as I really want to put on my new ATE Power Disc's & PBRs >Soon....... > >Thanks in Advance > >Brian A. Douglas >Peachtree Chapter BMWCCA ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:36:25 -0500 (EST) From: Moe Drippins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Cold weather & heating John F Stoj writes: > It's the same with my '97. I think I remember reading in the manual > that they said not to bother letting the car run to warm it up - just > start it and go, keeping the revs down for a while until the water temp > is warmed up. It doesn't explain why it wouldn't warm up like any other > car, but I've found it to be true. I've heard this for all cars; letting them warm up slowly increases the time that the engine is running cold, which is bad. Warming up quickly (by starting it and driving asap, keeping revs low as mentioned) is a better solution. Or so I've read. On another topic, my E34 won't, under any circumstances, blow heat out the vents for the back seats (the vents in the back of the center console). Those vents don't react to either side of the heat/cool controls. Is heat EVER supposed to come out of those? - -- Just Moe '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:22 -0500 From: David Weston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Cold weather & heating Michael Holmes writes: >>On all the other cars I have had, I put the windshield defroster on whilst I >>scrape the ice/snow off, but on the BMW (95 M3) it just doesn't help. >>Any ideas, is that normal ? I don't know which "is normal" but I do this all of the time with my 95 ///M3 and it melts the ice on the windshield just fine. If yours is normal, I am going to leave mine Broke! David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 11:59:20 +0000 From: Scott Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Head gasket Sure, you can do it with basic hand tools and a decent torque wrench. The most difficult thing for me was getting the exhaust manifold off because the bolts had frozen themselves on. Just don't get in a hurry, follow the manual verbatim, and put everything back where it came from. I'm not sure whether your engine uses stretch bolts on the head, but if they did you'll need to buy new ones. Also, consider this an excellent time to replace your timing belt, since you're already digging around in there. This will also give you an opportunity to scrutinize the head for tiny cracks, and your examine your valves for any problems. Perhaps other hoses and rubber intake components can be replaced at the same time? Replacing the head gasket on your own engine will allow you to bond with your car in a way few other mechanical tasks can manage. Any hack can plug in a short shift kit or struts, but everyone knows that it takes a real MECHANIC to pull a head! :-) Good luck! Scott 1985 535i >I would like to get the head gasket in my 528e changed....Is this something I >can do myself? I have the time, and I feel I'm mechanically competent. Plus, >the local library has the Chilton shop books which have step by step >instructions. Basically, I have to disconnect the hoses, remove the bolts and >lift the head off. Change the gasket, and put everything back in the right >spot... right...? Q: How do you drive an engineer completely insane? A: Tie him to a chair, stand in front of him, and fold up a road map the wrong way. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:14:32 -0800 From: "Derek van Veen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HELP!!!!!! Been there...done that. Just drill out the bolt to the point where you can remove the old brake rotor with a rubber or rawhide mallet. Once the rotor is out of the way, you should have more than enough bolt left to remove it with pliers or vice-grips. Your BMW parts department should have the replacement allen bolts for about $3.00 each. You may want to try and get replacement caliper mounting bolts (the smaller ones that mount the caliper to the bracket) as they theoretically should be replaced at the same time as the pads/rotors. If not, clean them really well and use loctite red on them to prevent them from vibrating loose (the bolts are a special one-time locking thread bolt according to BMW). Also, a largish C-Clamp works really well for pushing the caliper piston back in so you can install new pads (watch out for brake fluid overflow!!!!) Good luck! - -Derek '90 325is (which has a set of ATE's waiting to be installed, incidentally) > Digesters: > > I have a stuck / almost all the way stripped Brake Disc > Mounting Bolt (1). > What to do next..... > > Please help as I really want to put on my new ATE Power Disc's & PBRs > Soon....... > > Thanks in Advance > > Brian A. Douglas > Peachtree Chapter BMWCCA > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:28:14 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Cold weather & heating > I've heard this for all cars; letting them warm up slowly increases > the time that the engine is running cold, which is bad. Warming up > quickly (by starting it and driving asap, keeping revs low as > mentioned) is a better solution. Or so I've read. This is true from what I have heard. I know that for air-cooled 911's, it is even more important to get out and drive the car instead of letting it warm up at idle revs. In fact, I even think that BMW states in the owner's manual to avoid warming the car up at idle. I just wonder whether the benefit of getting it warmed up quicker (getting the oil thin) is offset by the increased revs during driving. At idle you are, of course, only spinning at 1,000 or less....at speed you are twice that for the most part....and the engine is still cold for a bit. I would really like to know the exact reason this legend is out there. Does a mechanical engineer reside on the list to explain? Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:29:39 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 Cabriolet Sleeper I wonder if his wife will notice what we've done to her car. See http://www.movit.de/images/m3ca30e.jpg . SD ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:30:40 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Cold weather & heating Nope, the rear center vent is fresh air only. Close it for the winter and rely on the vents under the front seats to heat the back. Joe > On another topic, my E34 won't, under any circumstances, blow heat out > the vents for the back seats (the vents in the back of the center > console). Those vents don't react to either side of the heat/cool > controls. > > Is heat EVER supposed to come out of those? > > -- > Just Moe > '95 540 6 speed, BL/SS ======================================================================= | Joe (life's been good to me) Walsh - Lead Systems Programmer | |---------------------------------------------------------------------| | SMS(Systems Management Specialists)| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Westinghouse Energy Center | Voice: 412-374-4563 | | P.O.Box 355 | Fax: 412-374-3709 | | Bay W-244A | | | Monroeville, PA 15230 | WIN: 284-4563 | ======================================================================= NT makes the easy stuff easy, and the rest impossible. Unix makes everything possible, but nothing too easy. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:36:22 -0500 From: "Olsen, Mike (Morse TEC Ithaca)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HE LP!!!!!! Brian, Assuming you've tried penetrating oils and all that, I think I would go ahead and carefully drill off just the head of the bolt. With the head gone, you can pull off the disc and should then have access to a "nub" that you can grab with a set of vise-grips and try to remove (after applying more penetrating oil). If you still can't get the last of it out, keep drilling and then run a tap through to clean out the threads in the hub. Some people wouldn't bother with the last step and just not install another mounting bolt, but I've always liked to use them... Good luck, - -Mike Olsen '88 ///M3 '88 325iC Brain said: I have a stuck / almost all the way stripped Brake Disc Mounting Bolt (1). What to do next..... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:10:39 -0800 (PST) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Frozen Lock Trick I still think that is one of the funniest scenes ever in movie. Especially when they look down from the classroom and he is stuck to the pole with his arms flailing. Classic movie. I should get one of those leg lamps for my living room. Kevin Kelly Golden Gate Chapter 91 M5 P.S. Don't have many frozen locks around here--unless you go skiing for the weekend. It was 68 and sunny yesterday and I should have played hooky to watch the HUGE waves out at Half Moon Bay aka Maverick. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:35:06 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: taillight query Brett wrote: >Without delving into wiring diagrams, my bet is you got a 4 door rear light >instead of a coupe light. >There is a difference, that may be it. Could also be that he got tail lights from a non OBC equipped car and his are OBC equipped. I know there is a difference between these on M3's, my reference is a difference between a 5/94 prod car and a 10/94 prod one. The clear Euro ones should work in either car in case anyone cares. Carlos 91 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:38:00 -0500 From: "Joseph Lerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS 97 528 I'm posting this for a friend, 1997 528 Canyon Red/Saddle interior 5 speed standard options plus Premium Package 42,000 miles $30K Daily driver, no track, no auto x contact me privately joseph ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:50:57 -0800 From: "Ray Barber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Cabriolet Sleeper Ooooh! Pretty colours! LOL! Ray Barber '83 535 Euro - -----Original Message----- From: Steve D'Gerolamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I wonder if his wife will notice what we've done to her car. See >http://www.movit.de/images/m3ca30e.jpg . SD >========================================= >Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage >201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:53:13 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E32 735i- broken mounts for vent actuator motors Greetings, I have an '88 735i which is in the process of getting a new heater core. While I was taking things apart, I found that both of the motors that control flow to the driver and passenger sides of the car had broken off of their mounts. No wonder the heat was kind of screwy. These are the motors that are mounted to either side of the stereo above the heater core housing. I called the dealer to find out about getting a new heater core housing and found out that there is a TSB regarding this problem. Apparently there is a design flaw and the motors break themselves off the mounts. I was able to get part numbers and prices for the pieces needed to make the repair, but be warned they are expensive. cover 64 11 1 374 324 $174.79 Actuator motor (2 required) 64 11 1 468 415 122.38 Anyway, I'm not going to drop $500 for these parts. I'm considering glueing and reinforcing the broken parts that I have, but would like to hear any other experiences with this problem. Specifically, does anyone know if the updated parts came on a later model E32 so that I might scavenge them off of a parts car? Or can you adapt the original motors to fit on the new cover? Suggestions? Mike Matison '88 735i -stuck at home in the garage. I already waited for the back-ordered heater tubes to arrive and now this! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:10:19 -0500 From: "Cagann, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HE LP!!!!!! For people whom perform alot of DIY work and have an older vehicle they work on, I would strongly suggest the use of PB Blaster as a means to loosen rusted or "heat welded" nuts and bolts. I was able to remove a catalytic converter that was on a 1982 911 for 18 years and over 100,000 miles. I have used this stuff with the most amazing results and have found no other product that comes close. Does anyone else use this great product? It stinks to high heaven but sure as hell does the job. Alex Cagann 88///M5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:05:26 -0500 From: "Phemister, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt Brian asks: <<<Subject: [uuc] <E-30><ALL> Stuck / Stripped Brake Mounting Hex Bolt HELP!!!!!! I have a stuck / almost all the way stripped Brake Disc Mounting Bolt (1). What to do next.....>>>>>>> Assuming youre looking at the little hex screw holding the disc to the hub, you should soak the little *%@@# with penetrating oil from both ends, then give it some whacks with a drift and hammer, then try tightening it to snap the rust. You might get lucky. Then try drilling into the hole to remove the head - at some pint the disc will pull off, and you can extract the stub with vice grips - use more p. oil or heat. George ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #182 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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