[uucdigest] Saturday, February 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 197 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ����������������������������������������� In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] riceboy reference Re: [uuc] RE: Oktoberfest preparations [uuc] E36 Alignment Re: [uuc] Oktoberfest preparations [uuc] recommendation [uuc] <E30> Misc questions [uuc] X5 [uuc] re: 16 year old lesbians [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] Josh's wipers Re: [uuc] <FS> A few E36 performance parts and assorted race stuff Re: [uuc] X5 Re:[uuc] riceboy question... getting way off topic... [uuc] Schnitzer n' Mudflaps Re: Re:[uuc] riceboy question... getting way off topic... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:32:49 -0800 From: Jonathan Tsao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] riceboy reference I'm amazed at the plethora of elaborate explanations and strained interpretations regarding the riceboy reference. for those of you out there who do not feel that this term is either derogatory or directed at Asians, bully for you but you are wrong because it is both. and by the way it is not for you to say whether Asians should take offence at what it either means or not means-you're not the group affected. ask 100 people randomly what ethnic group comes to mind with the term "riceboy"-what do you think their response will be........... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 21:36:24 -0500 From: "Ellie MacDougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Oktoberfest preparations OK, guys. There has been a dizzying array of tangential topics on this subject. Many thanks. Just as thanks goes to ALL of you for my request for info on "helmets", which morphed into "neck collars", then far into Ofest hotel reservations, etc. I truly love you guys! Thanks for the info. Jack and I will see you all at Ofest -- in the bar or on the track :-) Ellie MacDougall - -- Need a quick virtual vacation? Visit our Maine farm at http://www.blueskyfarm.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 18:45:42 -0800 From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Alignment At 07:27 PM 2/4/00 -0500, Frank Massaro wrote: > >The weight in the driver's seat approximates you- I believe it is165 lbs >give or take, the trunk weight is the equivalent of gas- I think that's >about 80 pounds. In the worst case, have someone of approximately that >weight sit in the car, and bring it in pretty full of gas. Someone on the >list may know the specific wieghts- I don't remember. > The weights to use are: 45 kg (150lbs) in each front seat and in the center of the rear seat, plus 22 kg (45 lbs) in the center of the rear trunk, for a grand total of 157 kg (495 lbs), a full tank of gas, and spare installed. Hope this helps, Jim Ochi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:56:55 -0400 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Oktoberfest preparations At 10:10 AM -0500 2/4/2000, Grant Low wrote: >Steven and Steven discussing the O'fest pages: > >> >Am I the only one who can't read the text on the inside o'fest pages? >> >http://www.oktoberfest2000.org for those who don't know. >> >> You're not alone there. >> > >Are you both using Netscape? IE5 does it just fine. My guess is that the >coder of the page didn't do his html correctly and messed up a table tag. >With Netscape, if you mess up table structure, even just a tiny bit, it will >just totally ignore the WHOLE table. IE is much better about that and will >usually interpret the table correctly. I'm using Netscape 4 something. It sort of works with Netscape 3 on my older computer put I don't have the MacroMedia plugin and I don't care to install the MacroMedia plug in on that one. I think it's a problem is in the style sheets. For me to read the page I need to read the source. IE5. That's a Micro$oft thing, isn't it? Steve Mcquire. . . keep it simple, please. ...steven ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:28:04 -0600 From: "Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] recommendation I just purchased some used parts from Bill Proud in Seattle, and his was one of the best experiences I've had to date with BMW related parts. He sent me the part BEFORE he received my check! In fact, he got my check the same day I got the parts. We really have a great group of folks on this digest and the level of trust is really amazing. BTW, I live in Alabama and in conversing with him, found out his wife is from Huntsville, only 70 miles from here. Really a small world after all(don't start singing). Bill Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:30:28 -0800 (PST) From: "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <E30> Misc questions I got my car back from the body shop today, and *damn* does it look good! I'm very happy, but I do have some (perhaps unrelated) problems that I've noticed... Questions for the accrued wisdom of the Digest: What kind of connections are needed for the central locking to work? Neither my passenger nor driver's side power lock any more. Moreover, both lock mechanisms are stiff when actuated manually (either with the key or the lock button). Any suggestions where I should start? The little tab which goes on one side of the rear defrost grid has fallen off. This means no more power to the defroster, which in wintertime is bad news. I've tried wedging it back in between the rubber (gasket?) and the grid, which has worked. Any other (more permanent) suggestions? Are all OBCs created equal? The writing on my OBC buttons has become obscenely ugly, and I'd like to replace the unit. Would any 80s-era BMW OBC fit/plug in properly (of course I'd swap the coding plugs)? Has anyone done a dashboard swap on an E30? It seems a little sad to have a severely cracked dash in such a pretty car... Any tips/hints/warnings? (Other than Neil Deshpande warning me not to do it! :-) ) Any hints for removing all of the dust (???) from the inside? It's paint-job related, and a kind of beige colored chalky substance. It's all over every little crack & I can see it driving me nuts really quickly... One last q: The bottom corners of my instrument cluster plastic cover have turned opaque. It's not obscuring any of the instruments, but it is a bit unsightly. Suggestions? TIA. KC "concerned with appearances" Boyce '85 325e E30 Eta Page: http://rikki.coloradocollege.edu/~k_boyce/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] X5 Just saw my first X5 in the flesh today at the dealer. Wow... Um, I thought it would be a lot lower from all the pics I'd seen of it. But, no, it's a sport-ute. Grrr... I don't care how well the mags say it drives, I don't consider the damn thing a BMW!!!! (Though if my mom insists on getting a sport ute, I'll try and steer her towards the X5...) KC Boyce '85 325e E30 Eta Page: http://rikki.coloradocollege.edu/~k_boyce/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:33:07 -0600 From: "Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: 16 year old lesbians Jim wrote:<Phhhhhttt! Like your not anyway. :) Jim Rob Levinson - UUC Motorwerks wrote: >Hmmm... maybe tonight > I'll be a 16-year-old lesbian, yeah, that's it! > > - Rob> He is NOT! everybody knows Rob is MUCH older than 16!<g> Bill-banger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:34:42 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] Josh's wipers Ain't this digest great... We have BA, CCA m3mber #2, Steve G, Charlottesville Phil (it is feb you know) and now...... << psychic BMW advisor >> Delford Chaffin 87 535i always needin help sorry I forgot to mention Jason & Curt &....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <FS> A few E36 performance parts and assorted race stuff James, Is the Rieger kit still available? So you're selling all the body kit pieces in addition to a set of wheels? No tires right? How hard is it to intall this kit? I've heard some nasty stories of wide body kits..hehe. How much will you charge to ship it to California? Let me know! Thanks, Richard '96 M3/2 _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:47:32 -0800 From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] X5 I was surprised the first time in person as well (LA Auto Show).... I have to say, I expected the car to have more resemblence to a Land Rover given the relationship there. Apparently we are driving them at the Ultimate Driving Experience event this year so I'll let ya know what I think.... Jon... - hate Sport Utes.... They should outlawed as they are a danger to the owners and everyone around them. - ----- Original Message ----- From: K.C. Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: [uuc] X5 > Just saw my first X5 in the flesh today at the dealer. Wow... Um, I > thought it would be a lot lower from all the pics I'd seen of it. But, > no, it's a sport-ute. Grrr... I don't care how well the mags say it > drives, I don't consider the damn thing a BMW!!!! > > (Though if my mom insists on getting a sport ute, I'll try and steer > her towards the X5...) > > KC Boyce > '85 325e > E30 Eta Page: http://rikki.coloradocollege.edu/~k_boyce/ > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 23:01:32 -0600 From: "-A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:[uuc] riceboy question... getting way off topic... Being of asian descent, I appreciate the sentiment that you hold regarding generalities that can be construed as demeaning, or perhaps even racist. That said, I personally have no problem with this as I am a bit fed up with these "riceboy" pukes drag race at 2:30am down the main thoroughfare around my apartment with their "high-performance" sewer pipe exhausts blaring. I don't care about those who deem vehicular aesthetics are enhanced when you plaster them with decals or that they have tinting that would be appropriate as visor shades for astronauts. It's the offensive- offensive to any rational, law-abiding citizen/motorist- behavior that pisses me off enough to use that term. The sheer lack of automotive knowledge of some of these people is also quite annoying to boot. It's hard to have respect for someone who thinks a four-cylinder variable valve timing/lift engine can outaccelerate all six or eight cylinder cars. "Riceboy" to me, used in the automotive context, holds no racist connontations. Perhaps a little derogatory but certainly no worse than a "F... you, j... off". A riceboy aka ricer aka riceburner, etc, etc. also doesn't only apply to drivers of asian descent or automobiles of Japanese origin, I know plenty of riceboy caucasians driving compact American makes. OBMWC- My favorite "riceboy" comment as of late was, "My Civic Si with Apex-i exhaust and lowered suspension smok'd one o' dem new BeeMmm-double U M5's." Indeed! Those assorted Mugen decals must turn your otherwise stock Civic B16 engine into one of those Jordan/Mugen Honda V10s... the coveted Type-R decal must net 100lb-ft of torque alone. It's been posted before nut check out <http://www.riceboypage.com> and get another asian's viewpoint. Also, for lots of laughs, log onto <http://www.speedmagazine.com>, check out the Speed Tales pages. I can't read them while at work because i find myself laughing and giggling uncontrollably after reading some posts. Cheers, - -A. `87 325is - ----------------- > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:25:28 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question > > it offends me when people refer to Asian descended people or owners of > Japanese autos as "riceboy". several of my friends are Asian and they are > "top notch". i think we could all be mature enough not to stoop to name > calling or using generalities that sort people by where they (or their > families) were born. i do think some of the things done on some cars (from > every type of people) are very silly/loud/obnoxious, etc. looking, but that > is not a reason to use a slang word that is offensive to a race of people. > put yourselves in their place and imagine how it feels. there are plenty of > other adjectives that could be used without implying that people from aisa > are "tacky" or have less taste than __________(insert your heritage here). > ok,, enough on my soapbox.,,, but since someone asked, i felt the need to > share. > tommy- the drag racing crusader for Christ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:02:57 -0500 From: "Duane Collie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Schnitzer n' Mudflaps >Has anyone successfully installed factory mudflaps on an E30 that has >after-market skirts, or ix/M3 skirts ? I plan to perform some "modifications" >to the front set to mount them (I have AC Schnitzer skirts). Dunno why, but for some reason I just had this picture come to mind as I read this, of Catherine Zeta-Jones wearing an itty-bitty bikini top frolicking in the ocean at Malibu.......and as she comes out of the surf my eyes are treated to her wearing Fisherman's Waders. Mudflaps. - - Duane Collie The Seven Sled ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 21:08:35 -0800 From: "Jonathan Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re:[uuc] riceboy question... getting way off topic... Out of curiosity I did a whois lookup on the "riceboypage.com" domain name and it is interesting to note the owner is of Asian descent... Bryan Hong of La Jolla, Ca who is a student UCSD to exact.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: -A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re:[uuc] riceboy question... getting way off topic... > Being of asian descent, I appreciate the sentiment that you hold regarding > generalities that can be construed as demeaning, or perhaps even racist. > > That said, I personally have no problem with this as I am a bit fed up with > these "riceboy" pukes drag race at 2:30am down the main thoroughfare around > my apartment with their "high-performance" sewer pipe exhausts blaring. > > I don't care about those who deem vehicular aesthetics are enhanced when you > plaster them with decals or that they have tinting that would be appropriate > as visor shades for astronauts. It's the offensive- offensive to any > rational, law-abiding citizen/motorist- behavior that pisses me off enough > to use that term. The sheer lack of automotive knowledge of some of these > people is also quite annoying to boot. It's hard to have respect for someone > who thinks a four-cylinder variable valve timing/lift engine can > outaccelerate all six or eight cylinder cars. > > "Riceboy" to me, used in the automotive context, holds no racist > connontations. Perhaps a little derogatory but certainly no worse than a > "F... you, j... off". A riceboy aka ricer aka riceburner, etc, etc. also > doesn't only apply to drivers of asian descent or automobiles of Japanese > origin, I know plenty of riceboy caucasians driving compact American makes. > > OBMWC- My favorite "riceboy" comment as of late was, "My Civic Si with > Apex-i exhaust and lowered suspension smok'd one o' dem new BeeMmm-double U > M5's." > > Indeed! Those assorted Mugen decals must turn your otherwise stock Civic B16 > engine into one of those Jordan/Mugen Honda V10s... the coveted Type-R decal > must net 100lb-ft of torque alone. > > It's been posted before nut check out <http://www.riceboypage.com> and get > another asian's viewpoint. > > Also, for lots of laughs, log onto <http://www.speedmagazine.com>, check out > the Speed Tales pages. I can't read them while at work because i find myself > laughing and giggling uncontrollably after reading some posts. > > Cheers, > -A. > `87 325is > ----------------- > > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:25:28 EST > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] riceboy question > > > > it offends me when people refer to Asian descended people or owners of > > Japanese autos as "riceboy". several of my friends are Asian and they are > > "top notch". i think we could all be mature enough not to stoop to name > > calling or using generalities that sort people by where they (or their > > families) were born. i do think some of the things done on some cars (from > > every type of people) are very silly/loud/obnoxious, etc. looking, but that > > is not a reason to use a slang word that is offensive to a race of people. > > put yourselves in their place and imagine how it feels. there are plenty of > > other adjectives that could be used without implying that people from aisa > > are "tacky" or have less taste than __________(insert your heritage here). > > ok,, enough on my soapbox.,,, but since someone asked, i felt the need to > > share. > > tommy- the drag racing crusader for Christ > ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #197 ************************** _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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